[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: showgsd-l Digest V1 #133
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- Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 15:37:54 -0400
Ditto on the Bio's~ It's been great!! This year more than ever we all need to
be educated. Thanks to all that have taken the time to share and to post it.
Peace
Brenda
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Subject: showgsd-l Digest V1 #133
showgsd-l Digest Thu, 13 Sep 2007 Volume: 01 Issue: 133
In This Issue:
#1: From: Peggy <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: One BIG catalogue?
#2: From: DKARLOFF@xxxxxxx
Subject: Closed Session
#3: From: "Sharon Allbright" <sharlen@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: What Is Happening In Our Club
#4: From: VPREZHMF@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: advisor
#5: From: "Carley Parson" <cajon1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Keep the Bios comming
#6: From: "Cyndy Davis" <cyndy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: MISSING MEETINGS
#7: From: "LuAnn Kennedy" <brendangsd@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: NonGSD - St. Clairsville Ohio KC B-OB match and rally
#8: From: "Carolyn" <marhaven@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: MISSING MEETINGS
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Msg: #1 in digest
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:38:10 -0400
From: Peggy <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: One BIG catalogue?
Most cluster shows and multiple day shows have only ONE catalog these
days...have had for a while now...and entries for all the days are included.
I don't think that would be possible for shows held at different sites,
like the Futurities, tho... Otherwise that old rule is pretty much
long gone.
Peggy
judy wrote:
>This would be great....except AKC WILL NOT PERMIT A CATALOG TO BE SOLD AND
>GIVEN OUT UNTIL 1 HOUR BEFORE SHOW STARTS
>this would prevent selling catalogs with a 9 futurities in them.
>Judy
>judsohngsd@xxxxxxx
>
>
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Msg: #2 in digest
From: DKARLOFF@xxxxxxx
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:45:47 EDT
Subject: Closed Session
Following up on Peggy Kurz note - before we take up arms, please note that
the Annual meeting is closed to outsiders - meaning that it is for Members
Only and your membership card or other means of identification is required
before entering the meeting. I will bring a current listing to verify
membership
status at the door. This rule has been in place since I joined the Club many
years ago. I proposed to do away with this practice last year before I
realized that it was part of our By-Laws and thus requiring AKC endorsement
and
membership approval before any change is effected.
Regards to all,
Dania Karloff
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Msg: #3 in digest
From: "Sharon Allbright" <sharlen@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: What Is Happening In Our Club
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 19:49:00 -0700
Hello Tom,
At the board meeting in July, Lew read charges against Margery Golant. One
of the charges, the most damming for us all to comprehend, was that she made
radical changes to the Terms and Agreements contract concerning the Hunte
application. Lew spoke in such a way we were all convinced Margery Golant
had done a horrible horrible deed. Changed official paper work and then
sent it to Hunte's attorney. After the facts were all known, what Margery
Golant did was make a few changes to the paper work with our attorney's
permission as she felt it was very wrong to sign the paper work as it was
written. She wrote alleged on a few lines and a few other non threatening
words I don't recall at this moment. Be also advised that this was the
number one charge against Margery Golant and at the conference call meeting
this charge was dismissed, allegedly because Margery needed a couple of
weeks to get a response from the GSDCA attorney and the vote was no one
wished to wait for this response so the charge was discarded.
For the record I never signed the "Terms and Agreements" papers that were
passed around in the bar in July before the board meeting because I did not
agree with them and so of course would not sign them.
Sharon Allbright
Corresponding Secretary GSDCA
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From: <Gsdman2@xxxxxxx>
To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 6:44 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: What Is Happening In Our Club
In a message dated 9/13/2007 6:33:03 PM Central Standard Time,
sharlen@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
I have publicly stated I strongly support Margery Golant as well as Ken
Downing and Tish Walker.
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Sharon,
I have what I think is a fair question which apparently should be answered
publicly. Many of us know that Ken and Lew are not the best of friends. It
is
obvious that there is a split between the people that support them
individually, and as you stated above, you support Ken, Tish, and Margy. I
have seen
posts from Margy which make it clear that she does not like Lew, and I've
seen
posts from Tish which I took to imply that she does not think much of Lew's
ability to run a meeting. Given all of the information I've seen over the
past
several weeks, here is what leaves me scratching my head... Since you and
other
board members support Margy, how is it that all of the board members signed
the letter asking her to resign? I know that one board member asked to have
her name removed after the fact, but it is "before the fact" that has me
wondering. Seeing the division between the board which is obviously
centered on Lew,
I am left wondering how Lew could possibly have convinced even the people
who
are obviously against him to sign that resignation request? Could you
explain? I guess this is also a question to Tish and Carolyn?
I did what I could to try to head off some of the insanity I've seen on the
list, and I was accused of taking sides. I'm going to be accused of taking
sides for asking this question too. So be it. At this point it looks like
the
election could be decided with a lynch mob mentality, and in fact that has
been
encouraged constantly on this list. In my view, that is not the best way to
cast a vote.
Thanks
Tom Langlitz
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Msg: #4 in digest
From: VPREZHMF@xxxxxxx
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:51:06 EDT
Subject: Re: advisor
In a message dated 9/13/2007 5:32:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
Dir@xxxxxxxxxx writes:
This is so true. I am not sure how this could come to be but her years as
part of the PC officers and board would be welcomed as a stabilizer. Sandi
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From: "Barbara or DTA Amidon" <amidon@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 9:20 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] advisor
>I feel it would do us good to have Helen Fisher as a member of the board to
>help guide us and to use her voice of reason..Helen was our club President
>and has served in all aspects including breeding handling Judging..She goes
>way back so knows how to handle situations..Helen should be asked to guide
>us with her knowledge.. Barbara Amidon
> www.amber-german-shepherds.com
>
> Thank you both--but I'm not running <G> But I can give advise,when I'm
asked and sometimes when I not asked Helen Miller Fisher
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Msg: #5 in digest
From: "Carley Parson" <cajon1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Keep the Bios comming
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:51:59 -0400
I just love reading about you people Runnning! I only had Two bIO'S , Gotta say
they were very Intersting, both of them!!!!Those guy's took the time out to
E-mail me their Bio's , and i love it!~!!!!!! Hey guy's" BIG THANKS" for
taking
time out to introduce your Selves, Loved your Bio's and you know who you are,
Please feel free to send more Bios my way cause i love readining about you Joni
Carley Parson
cajon1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
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Msg: #6 in digest
From: "Cyndy Davis" <cyndy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: MISSING MEETINGS
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:10:15 -0700
Tish, I agree. It's not just about missing, but about why and what
arrangements you make to get your job done, be it through asking someone to
fill in or as Margy did, doing it over conference call.
I THINK I remember that the rule was changed because Blanche had a hard time
attending meetings. No one wanted to throw her off!
Cyndy
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From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of TISHW@xxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:14 PM
To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] MISSING MEETINGS
Hi All,
I just want to clarify some misconceptions about Margy and the meetings she
has missed. As you all know, I have attended almost every meeting in the
past 20+ years. Margy missed the July 2005 meeting when Ginny was
President. I
remember it well because we had just moved to VA and were at Lake Anna. I
flew out of National and could hardly walk my knee hurt so bad. It is one
of
the only meetings in 20 years when I didn't stay for the Sunday portion (I
WAS NOT A BOARD MEMBER THAT YEAR!). Margy was sick in FL with shingles or
something and her doctor would not let her fly. She participated in the
meeting
and took the minutes thanks to modern technology. She also missed the
National meeting in Oregon. That says she missed 1 meeting out of 8 under
Ginny
Altman.
Margy missed the April 2006 meeting because of an emergency with her
Mother.
Margy also missed the July 2007 meeting (and had asked me to cover for
her). That says she missed 2 meetings out of 7 under Lew (we still have
one to
go remember). So by my figures, Margy missed 3 of 15 meetings (Board meets
4
times during the year).
Now, we have had many Board members miss meetings for far less worthy
reasons than Margy's. I must admit that this last meeting I had debated
staying on
Sunday. My family was having a big reunion in Colorado and I was missing
the beginning of it. However, I decided that being a Board member, and
martyr
that I am (LOL), I would fly back later Sunday afternoon. Having attended
so
many meetings over the years I could probably tell you who didn't attend
and
why and who left early or didn't come in in time to visit a site or
whatever.
Attending meetings is very important, especially depending on your
position.
However, the reason you don't attend is also important. You know when
you
run for election when the meetings are. Therefore you can, and should,
try
to arrange your schedule so that you are able to attend the Board meetings
and be there for the full duration.
Tish
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Msg: #7 in digest
From: "LuAnn Kennedy" <brendangsd@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: NonGSD - St. Clairsville Ohio KC B-OB match and rally
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 23:21:17 -0400
Just wanted to let you know about our match coming up on September 29th in
Cadiz, OH. Breed, obedience and rally. FMI or a flyer, email me at
brendangsd@xxxxxxxxxxx
LuAnn Kennedy
SCOKC Publicity Chair
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Msg: #8 in digest
From: "Carolyn" <marhaven@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: MISSING MEETINGS
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:15:08 -0700
Tish, THANK YOU SO MUCH for clarifying all of this so well .....as you
usually
do!
This and Ginny Altman's clarification should help some understand why a few of
us are
not happy about Margy's so called ....... "removal".
Carolyn marhaven@jps,net
From: TISHW@xxxxxxx To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:14 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] MISSING MEETINGS
Hi All,
I just want to clarify some misconceptions about Margy and the meetings she
has missed. As you all know, I have attended almost every meeting in the
past 20+ years. Margy missed the July 2005 meeting when Ginny was
President.
I
remember it well because we had just moved to VA and were at Lake Anna. I
flew out of National and could hardly walk my knee hurt so bad. It is one
of
the only meetings in 20 years when I didn't stay for the Sunday portion (I
WAS NOT A BOARD MEMBER THAT YEAR!). Margy was sick in FL with shingles or
something and her doctor would not let her fly. She participated in the
meeting
and took the minutes thanks to modern technology. She also missed the
National meeting in Oregon. That says she missed 1 meeting out of 8 under
Ginny
Altman.
Margy missed the April 2006 meeting because of an emergency with her Mother.
Margy also missed the July 2007 meeting (and had asked me to cover for
her). That says she missed 2 meetings out of 7 under Lew (we still have one
to
go remember). So by my figures, Margy missed 3 of 15 meetings (Board meets
4
times during the year).
Now, we have had many Board members miss meetings for far less worthy
reasons than Margy's. I must admit that this last meeting I had debated
staying on
Sunday. My family was having a big reunion in Colorado and I was missing
the beginning of it. However, I decided that being a Board member, and
martyr
that I am (LOL), I would fly back later Sunday afternoon. Having attended
so
many meetings over the years I could probably tell you who didn't attend and
why and who left early or didn't come in in time to visit a site or whatever.
Attending meetings is very important, especially depending on your position.
However, the reason you don't attend is also important. You know when you
run for election when the meetings are. Therefore you can, and should, try
to arrange your schedule so that you are able to attend the Board meetings
and be there for the full duration.
Tish
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