First off Anja, You need to be careful about using terms like 'you folks'. That is an unfair generalization that characterizes anyone who is active in conformation as being manipulative and uncaring about the inexperienced newcomer. You are correct in that there are some insensitive people out there that, for whatever reason, are not interested in helping the person who is showing a less than competitive dog gain more knowledge and experience. That is indeed sad and I have seen it myself. But, for that kind of person there are a lot more that would and do go out of their way to help the newcomer. I had it done for me and I have, in turn, done it for others. Second, the breeder who sells a pet to someone and then finds out that the person has been bitten with the show bug should very gently guide that owner along a path that will teach them what to look for in a good dog and hopefully the owner will eventually have the scales removed fom their eyes and recognize that their beloved Schatzie is not destined for the show ring, hence being sold as a pet for probably less money. I am thinking that something must have happened at a recent show to spark this posting. I am indeed sorry that someone was mean and rude and by golly doesn't seem to have the heart to love our great breed no matter what the outward appearance. I am always amazed when I meet someone who professes to love this breed and yet makes fun of a dog that is maybe not the next 'world beater'. Anyway, sorry to ramble, but I just wanted to say that not everyone on this list, or who is into conformation is like that. Some of us really do like to serve! Cynthia Anja Heibloem-Stroud <Anja_Heibloem-Stroud@xxxxxxx> wrote: You folks continue to amaze me! Keep hearing how we don't have any new blood, how can we attract new people interested in showing. BUT someone develops a interest in showing their pet puppy and you would of thought they were taking a DAMN MUTT in the ring! I am as proud and happy with my companion quality pups as I would be with any I intend to keep for myself. WHAT the HELL is wrong with you people, are you ashamed to have one of your pets out there? Is it SO BAD that under all costs it must not be in the ring??????? Have you considered that by helping the person, and inviting them to a show, let them observe the goings on that they could possibly own the next GV, or are you afraid of the potential competition! The way things are going now, I doubt if we will have any shows left for German Shepherds in another 10 years! Anja Heibloem-Stroud www.pet-net.net/hausmekon/ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================