To be more realistic,perhaps the definition of "selects" is what should be looked at,and perhaps revised. I don't think anyone out there believes that there can be 10 or 12 dogs that day that are equal to the GV,but there certainly CAN and ARE 10 to 12 or more dogs that are of EXCEPTIONAL quality in the breed that should be honored. And just for the record,I don't believe in putting a limit on selects. If the exceptional quality is there,it should be honored JMO,of course. I think the word "select" is still fitting for these dogs. Jean ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================