Thank you Ms.Jennifer Root I learned from your post. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All Typically Herding is scheduled the Sat & Sun (all breed trials) and Mon (GSD Day) A day of travel or rest on Tues and the conformation portion of our National starts Weds. I really don't see how else we could schedule it without running in to the conformation events. While I am on the subject of Herding at the Nationals.... A number of years ago all of us that herd realized that the most common complaint at any National herding event (GSD, Collies, Aussies, Corgis, etc) was that either sheep and or the facility (one in place or sheep trucked in) were awfull! So in putting on a National herding event you face two or three major problems. One is that if you do not use an established herding (or livestock) facility you must rent/buy fencing for arenas and for holding sheep and have the manpower to erect it and tear it down after the event....all quite costly. That would bring us to the second and third problem....sheep that are trucked in tend to be quite cranky and do not work well. If anyone besides me recalls the Kentucky Nationals we had sheep leaping over the temporary fencing as soon as you walked in the arena with a dog....it was ugly folks!! There are a few "roving" flocks that are used to being trucked in to sites and can be used for A & B course......once again quite costly. To my knowledge (and I am sure someone from C course will correct me if I am wrong) there are no "roving" C course flocks and if there is I am sure that would run in to quite a bit as well. So, faced with these factors that turn a herding event in to a disaster , the herding committee came up with a list of criterion to follow whenever possible for our National herding event. In a nutshell, we look for established sites with established flocks that are used for training and trials on a regular basis. In addition this facility must have "upright" dogs (GSD,Bouvier, Collie, Rotties) working their sheep on a regular basis. In addition we would like that site to be as close as possible to the conformation site. Unfortunately, this year there was no facility close to the Ford Center that met our criterion. Sorry this is so lengthy but there seems to be alot of discussion about the herding event this year.........I hope this clears up the questions that have been expressed. A HUGE THANK EWE to all the clubs and individuals who sent trophy Werner http://imagegermanshepherds.com/ BISS Am/Can CH. Scher-Lo's Mr Karizma HIC.OFA h&e Am.CH. Hadori's Samantha OFA h&e B.O.F CH. Pointed, Lorien's Play By Play OFA h&e ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================