We bred Sable to Sable (Both were out of 1 Sable, 1 Black & Tan)????? We got exactly?4 Sables,?4 Black & Tans.?? However, of those sables 2 produced black & tans(& sables obviously), and 1 only produced Sables with several litters?out of?black & tans?????? The 4th never was bred so who knows Jeff -----Original Message----- From: ANN SCHULTZ <edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: Ketchy@xxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; TLSGSD@xxxxxxx Sent: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:39 am Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: sable to sable Only one parent has to be dominant carrying a sable gene from each parent to produce all sables. Juneknowmyname Apfelsine Edan ROM had two sable parents and produced 31 sable puppies, bred to B/T males. Ann Home of Sel Ex # 6 Ch Maxwell, Sel Ex Ch Gilley and #1 Dam Muggles - owner/breeder of 66 champions and 19 ROMs --- On Wed, 9/17/08, TLSGSD@xxxxxxx <TLSGSD@xxxxxxx> wrote: From: TLSGSD@xxxxxxx <TLSGSD@xxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: sable to sable To: Ketchy@xxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 10:18 AM This is only true if both parents are homozygous sable - if each parent of the litter also had a black and tan parent, then they can produce both sable and black/tan, if they carry the black recessive gene, they can produce blacks. Breeding sable to black and tan also does not necessarily give you all sables, although in the breedings I have done the breakdown was anywhere from 50-75% sable puppies. Terri Stout _Cresthaven Kennels_ (http://cresthavenkennels.com/) "Life is too short to wake up with regrets. So love the people who treat you right. Forget about the ones who don't. Believe everything happens for a reason. If you get a chance, take it. If it changes your life, let it." In a message dated 9/17/2008 5:34:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Ketchy@xxxxxxxxxx writes: If you breed sable to sable you will get all sables. The progeny will be dominant for sable -- if you breed them to black and tan you will most likely get all sables. **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================