Many years ago I attended a Specialty down in Florida. In the morning the ring was on the small side. The Judge worked his way thru his entry and awarded Winners Dog. During lunch, there were so many complaints about the ring size that the ring ropes were extended for the bitch classes. The Judge again worked his way thru the classes. It was apparent from the start of the puppy classes that he was picking balanced, long striding girls. When it came time for the Breed class, it was apparent how the ring change had affected the judging. The Winners Dog was balanced and smooth, but very much shorter in side gait than the bitch. If you put a dog with an extreme, suspending side gait in a typical poodle ring, they don't have enough room to get into "3rd" gear.They start to get into it, and then have to slow down for the turn. A shorter striding dog can get into "3rd" and be fully extended in a smaller ring. He's going to look like the better strider, he can show his full extention, while the more extreme dog is hobbled. Think about when you are walking with your 87 year old great aunt. You can't walk at your regular speed/gait. Your stride is shoppy, and jerky. You start to speed up and then slow down. People watching you would not be seeing you at your most co-ordinated. Kelly Malone Karma German Shepherds Cheviot Sheep ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================