In a message dated 1/8/2006 12:13:34 PM Central Standard Time, hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: In 1997 we started on Wed at 10 or 10:30..we did not have the reserve system in place then. Starting at 8 would would make up for the larger finals entry. Also as stated below better time management is needed . I am also in favor of doing away with the conditional class. We now have the Select excellent..this rewards what the conditional class was originally trying to show case. To have both is redundant. C.Grainger ****************************************************************************** *************************** I know that some have said starting earlier makes for a long day for the judges to be in the ring and standing all day. One other thought would be to start the Futurity Finals on Wednesday at 8 A.M. but rather than use the National judges use a breeder to judge the finals. This is a non regular class. A list of those judges could be on the ballot and whomever got the most vote for that year would judge the finals. Any judge that judged a regional futurity would not be eligible to judge the finals at the Nationals. One other thought could be that the judge who ran 4th from the ballot could do the futurity finals at the Nationals. Something to think about. Lee Brown ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================