In a message dated 7/17/2006 5:16:06 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Ketchy@xxxxxxxxxx writes: I think it's an insult to the elected judges to take away their capability of detecting spooks with the regular temperament test by implementing another Hi Penny I don't think that anyone is talking about taking away a judges option of doing the LLTE...matter of fact I would not be in favor of taking that out. However, there is certainly room for improvement, either in the Specials ring or outside it, as a bolstering to the Judges LLTE. Some say that it is okay to have dogs of poor temperament slip through....but I will counter...Why is that OK? Very warmest regards Kathy _Victory German Shepherds_ (http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com/index.htm) ~ WEBSITE UPDATED: MAY 27, 2006 Home of CH. ELVASTON'S NATIONS CUP, TC, OFA H/E DNA'D "NITRO" 25 BISS/ BESTS OF BREED TO DATE 2006 PACIFIC COAST VICTOR ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================