At the national in Dallas in the 60's Lloyd Bracket placed a white dod fourth in the novice class. I do not remember the year Lang Skarda finished Gray Boy, a blue. However, I do remember the reason the white became a DQ. Back then we did not know much about genes and their effects on health. Iy was thought that the white GS had health issues as did (and still do) many breeds. For example, the breeds which have the merle gene cannot breed merle to merle because they get whites which are deaf; a white collie must have a colored head; a boxer can have only a certain percentage of white; a Cardigan must not have white surrounding the eye; the Australian shepherd may not have white on the body behind the withers=; there are more as most herding breeds limit the amount of white. Back in the 60s these DQs were (and are) thought to affect health issues; thus, the powers that be at that time made the white GS a DQ. Interestingly, it was also thought that a sable liver GS carried a lethal gene. Qe now know that white does not indicate health issues. However, our standard is wrong in calling the livers and blues a serious fault; they are automatically a DQ because of the nose color. Carolyn ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION: http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================