my first young male who was from my first litter when doubled back on his maternal grandsire produced a litter with both livers and blues. i still have the pictures. he was a lovely pointed black and red dog dog who had off colored nails. I have worked with many bloodlines over the years eg (Cobert, Covy Tucker Hill, Amber, Doppelt TAy, to name a few) in all that time I have never seen a single white puppy in any litter. Also never seen double dew claws. While living in California I did see something I never saw before a blue sable. After some decades eventually you see where many of the DQs come from and why certain things are serious faults norma hansburg www.normahansburg.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================