After our last two specialties we had Bud Drew, Ellie Goede, Bob Kish, Debbie Hokanen all ventured out inot the field to watch the dogs tend a 200'X200' graze, with the handlers not saying a word to the dogs. Currently I have three Selects and a couple futurity winners as students as well as a couple others working on their championships. At the First Herding Institute in Portland Oregon, Kay Reamensnyder, the Herbals, Carman Battaglia, Denny Kodner, Ann Barbash as well as many others watched two dogs ( a Chief Cochise daughter who was 8, and a Prosecutor son who was 9) work a graze for well over an hour. In Raleigh, we had many others. Actually these herding Institutes were wonderful education projects put on by AKC. All the herding breeds were worked either in their traditional style or in their traditional stock, and then the PC eduction people made a classroom presentation. Lastly, there was a hands-on opportunity for judges to examine dogs taht teh PC felt were closely aligned with the standard. Unfortunately the AKC has determined that this program is too expensive...and are no longer continuing it. Susan Susan w. Sullivan Firethorn Farm German Shepherd Dogs Where Form Follows Function ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================