Thank you all for contributing to this thread, especially, Diane Silver-Strasser, and Ken and Kathy Tank....In my opinion, they are best-describing the essence of this ongoing discussion and providing the bigger picture on the ignorance (meant in its purest form) of the original post. They are also speaking with experience - from a breeder's perspective and they have walked the talk. Why post harmful information, naming names and insinuating a genetic link when indeed we KNOW for FACT injuries, illness and vaccinations have been the cause of epilepsy ? Sheesh! Those of us who know and trust breeders like Evan and Tedi (and so many others) do so because we believe they do the best they can to share FACTS at Asgard if and when they are pertinent to other people's world. "Outing" (and for that matter, false, wrongful-outing) really has no place in this world. Remember there are always "people" attached to our beloved breed. I worry not about the dog mentioned in the post - he'll measure up (or not) in the eyes of others. I do always feel for the hearts of the people - try to be respectful and kind and if you're unable to do so, try at the very least to walk away from your computer. jack -----Original Message----- From: Ken Tank Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 11:05 AM Cc: showgsd gsd Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: re Full communication Oh, ok. However, the dog still could have been injured by a third party or hit its head some other way. I had a dog years ago that got in a fight with another bitch. They went under the house and she hit her head. About 30 minutes later she had a siezure. Fortunately it was the only one. Ken On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Ileana <inquestgsd@xxxxxxx> wrote: > Werner asked if someone hurt the dog. Wouldn't consider that a possibility > with either of the parties. That's what I mean. > > Ileana > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 19, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Ken Tank <tanksr@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Not sure what your saying, Illiana, but a head injury can cause > > siezures. > > So both are good points. > > Ken > > > > > > On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Ileana <inquestgsd@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> Did something hurt the dog is a good point. Did someone hurt the dog > >> isn't. > >> > >> Just saying. > >> > >> Ileana > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> On May 19, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Ken Tank <tanksr@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >>> Werner makes a good point. There are many things that can cause > siezures that are not genetic. We should not blame good breeders for > things > beyond their control. > >>> I don't believe it is possible to determine if this is genetic unless > >> there are more than one with this problem. Probably should have taken > this up with the breeders, who I am sure would replace the dog, rather > that > air it here. > >>> JMHO, > >>> Ken > >>> On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Werner Sommers < > wernersommers@xxxxxxxxx > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Did someone hurt the dog is it possible. > >>>> ....................................................... > >>>> > >>>> Hi Lister's, I have debated back and forth if I should post....I feel > I > >>>> have an ethical and moral obligation to inform you that my Asgard's > Contezza has Epilepsy.. yes she in on meds and doing well....the issue is > Icon and Contezza are the 3rd repeat breeding with breeders knowing of > this. Enough said > >>>> Steven Allison > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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