[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: re Full communication
- From: Ileana <inquestgsd@xxxxxxx>
- To: "Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx" <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 17:52:08 -0400
You breed a litter, it turns out good and you repeat it, once, twice, whatever.
They are 1,2,3 years old when these problems show up. What are you supposed to
do, collect them all and put them down?? If course not! Was this
intentional?? Could not convince me. Is this unfortunate?? Absolutely.
People do bad things, lie and cheat, we see that in the ring, unfortunately.
But this? It comes down to intention. And why is the word outing being used?
Why is anyone suggesting ostracizing a person for sharing their pain and
experience? Is that how you plan to encourage people to talk about what
problems they have found with their dogs?? Sheesh
Now, what tests, markers, etc should we be learning about? 'Cause I know
nothing about epilepsy.
And Jack, chill out!
Ileana
Sent from my iPhone
On May 19, 2013, at 5:16 PM, Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx wrote:
> Oh come on Jack, you can't possibly mean the bitch's owner is "is someone
> who lacks knowledge or adequate information to form a reliable opinion".
> This is an individual whose first dog died and now the replacement has
> epilepsy. The dog has been thoroughly vetted. A BAD happened. We've all
> been there, most of us on both ends (owner and breeder and sometimes
> breeder and owner). It's no fun any way you look at it, in fact it just
> plain sucks for all involved.
>
> I sincerely doubt the dog was hit on the head, over vaccinated or overdosed
> w/ a toxic substance.
>
> Helen writes "The fact is, there are some bloodlines and stud dogs that do
> produceEpilepsy, as well as other dreaded genetic diseases. I mention stud
> dogs because they influence a greater majority of the breed. That is not to
> say that Epilepsy cannot be contracted from another source. However,
> important dogs in our breed have been known carriers. That being said,
> because we are so emotionally involved with our dogs and loyal to our
> friends, it becomes almost impossible to have "full communication" as to
> these
> carriers."
>
> And she's absolutely correct. I feel badly for all involved. That's not
> something we want to experience as an owner and not a phone call we want to
> get as a breeder. Thank you Helen.
>
> Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
> Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
> visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/
>
>
> In a message dated 5/19/2013 4:42:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> jackkilgour@xxxxxxx writes:
>
> LOL FB....LOL, what I meant by pure ignorance is someone who lacks
> knowledge or adequate information to form a reliable opinion – not “rude” or
> “mean” as some people use the word ignorant/ignorance.
> You’re fine FB – and so worry not about your students – they may not all
> vote you in as teacher of the year, but something tells me if you attend
> some school reunions up the road, you’ll have a few more saying “you were
> the dog back then man...and I should have paid more attention to you...”
> ......hehehehe.......”but what do I know”.....Ed Barritt says that all the
> time too...thinking Kathaleen may
> have in fact borrowed it from him.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jack Kilgour <jackkilgour@xxxxxxx>
> To: tanksr@xxxxxxxxx
> Cc: showgsd gsd <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sun, 19 May 2013 18:52:24 -0000 (UTC)
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: re Full communication
>
> Thank you all for contributing to this thread, especially, Diane
> Silver-Strasser, and Ken and Kathy Tank....In my opinion, they are
> best-describing the essence of this ongoing discussion and providing the
> bigger picture on the ignorance (meant in its purest form) of the original
> post. They are also speaking with experience - from a breeder's
> perspective and they have walked the talk.Why post harmful information,
> naming names and insinuating a genetic link when indeed we KNOW for FACT
> injuries, illness and vaccinations have been the cause of epilepsy ?Sheesh!
> Those of us who know and trust breeders like Evan and Tedi (and so many
> others) do so because we believe they do the best they can to share FACTS at
> Asgard if and when they are pertinent to other people's world."Outing" (and
> for that matter, false, wrongful-outing) really has no place in this world.
> Remember there are always "people" attached to our beloved breed. I worry
> not about the dog mentioned in the post - he'll measure up (or not) in the
> eyes of others. I do always feel for the hearts of the people - try to be
> respectful and kind and if you're unable to do so, try at the very least to
> walk away from your computer. jack
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