[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: re Full communication

  • From: "Jack Kilgour" <jackkilgour@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 13:42:34 -0700

LOL FB....LOL, what I meant by pure ignorance is someone who lacks knowledge or 
adequate information to form a reliable opinion – not “rude” or 
“mean” as some people use the word ignorant/ignorance.
You’re fine FB – and so worry not about your students – they may not all 
vote you in as teacher of the year, but something tells me if you attend some 
school reunions up the road, you’ll have a few more saying “you were the 
dog back then man...and I should have paid more attention to you...” 
........hehehehe.......”but what do I know”
Jack
........Ed Barritt says that all the time too...thinking Kathaleen may have in 
fact borrowed it from him. 
From: edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 1:21 PM
To: jackkilgour@xxxxxxx 
Cc: tanksr@xxxxxxxxx ; showgsd gsd 
Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: re Full communication
Hey Jack explain what pure ignorance means.  I think I have a few students who 
may fit the definition.  But then again just look at who their teacher is.  Not 
that there's anything wrong with that. Lol. FB

----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Kilgour <jackkilgour@xxxxxxx>
To: tanksr@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: showgsd gsd <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sun, 19 May 2013 18:52:24 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: re Full communication

Thank you all for contributing to this thread, especially, Diane 
Silver-Strasser, and Ken and Kathy Tank....In my opinion, they are 
best-describing the essence of this ongoing discussion and providing the 
bigger picture on the ignorance (meant in its purest form) of the original 
post.  They are also speaking with experience - from a breeder's perspective 
and they have walked the talk.
Why post harmful information, naming names and insinuating a genetic link 
when indeed we KNOW for FACT injuries, illness and vaccinations have been 
the cause of epilepsy ?
Sheesh!  Those of us who know and trust breeders like Evan and Tedi (and so 
many others) do so because we believe they do the best they can to share 
FACTS at Asgard if and when they are pertinent to other people's world.
"Outing" (and for that matter, false, wrongful-outing) really has no place 
in this world.  Remember there are always "people" attached to our beloved 
breed.  I worry not about the dog mentioned in the post - he'll measure up 
(or not) in the eyes of others.  I do always feel for the hearts of the 
people - try to be respectful and kind and if you're unable to do so, try at 
the very least to walk away from your computer.
jack

-----Original Message----- 
From: Ken Tank
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 11:05 AM
Cc: showgsd gsd
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: re Full communication

Oh, ok. However, the dog still could have been injured by a third party or
hit its head some other way. I had a dog years ago that got in a fight with
another bitch. They went under the house and she hit her head. About 30
minutes later she had a siezure. Fortunately it was the only one.
Ken

On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Ileana wrote:

> Werner asked if someone hurt the dog. Wouldn't consider that a possibility
> with either of the parties. That's what I mean.
>
> Ileana
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 19, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Ken Tank wrote:
>
> > Not sure what your saying, Illiana, but a head injury can cause 
> > siezures.
> > So both are good points.
> > Ken
> >
> >
> > On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Ileana wrote:
> >
> >> Did something hurt the dog is a good point.  Did someone hurt the dog
> >> isn't.
> >>
> >> Just saying.
> >>
> >> Ileana
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On May 19, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Ken Tank wrote:
> >>
> >>> Werner makes a good point. There are many things that can cause
> siezures that are not genetic. We should not blame good breeders for 
> things
> beyond their control.
> >>> I don't believe it is possible to determine if this is genetic unless
> >> there are more than one with this problem. Probably should have taken
> this up with the breeders, who I am sure would replace the dog, rather 
> that
> air it here.
> >>> JMHO,
> >>> Ken
> >>> On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Werner Sommers <
> wernersommers@xxxxxxxxx
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Did someone hurt  the dog is it possible.
> >>>> .......................................................
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Lister's, I have debated back and forth if I should post....I feel
> I
> >>>> have an ethical and moral obligation to inform you that my Asgard's
> Contezza has Epilepsy.. yes she in on meds and doing well....the issue is
> Icon and Contezza are the 3rd repeat breeding with breeders  knowing of
> this. Enough said
> >>>> Steven Allison
>


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