?The domestic dog is an extremely close relative of the gray wolf, differing from it by at most 0.2% of mtDNA sequence.... In comparison, the gray wolf differs from its closest wild relative, the coyote, by about 4% of mitochondrial DNA sequence.? Robert K. Wayne, Ph.D. ?Molecular evolution of the dog family? Theoretical and Applied Genetics http://www.fiu.edu/~milesk/Genetics.htm From memory ..... Simply just look at the teeth. Herbivores and omnivores have flat 'grinding' molars that can pulverise plant matter with the jaw mechanics that work side to side in a grinding motion. Canines have sharp tearing , cutting and crushing teeth designed to eat prey animals with the jaw action only being up and down with no sideways grinding motion possible. Carnivore were not meant to eat plant matter. They will however eat rotting fruits and twigs and vegetation on the forest floor to stave off starving to death. A starving creature will eat anything in an attempt to stay alive. ~S Cinosam GSD <cinosamgsd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: What are you basing your info on? Vegetarians like to say dogs are omnivores, which is why they feed their dogs only vegetarian based dogs foods, but since a dog is a direct descendant of a wolf and wolves are indeed carnivores not sure how that is possible. Bears are omnivores because they are just as happy eating berries as eating meat and if you've ever baited a bear you know that it is not meat but sweets that they are attracted to. Dogs can eat fuits and vegetables, but they thrive on meat/fat (protein) and you will never have to protect your garden from a bunch of meandering wolves. Carnivores- Carnivores are animals belonging to the Order Carnivora. The Order Carnivora contains 7 families and about 250 species. This group of animals includes dogs and their relatives, bears, racoons, mustelids, civits, hyenas, aardwolf, and cats. Cindy cinosamgsd.com grnram415@xxxxxxx wrote: Ok, that just hit on my pet peeve. Dogs are NOT CARNIVORES!!!!!!!!!! They are omnivores, just like humans. There are very few true carnivores in the animal world. These include cats, mink, hyenas and a few weird rodent things we don't have in North America. As Paul stated, in the wild, a dog/wolf, whatever, will go for the gut of an animal first. This is for the grasses the herbivore has ingested. Then they will go for the meaty parts and small bones. This is why we add veggies and fruits to the animals diet. To make it balanced. A meat diet alone for a dog is not a balanced diet, therefore, they are not carnivores. Feeding raw is no different that feeding your family a balanced meal. JMHO Laura Thomas -----Original Message----- From: ssthunderpony@xxxxxxxxx To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 9:26 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: rawfeeding ..... 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