Great post. In order to grow, the "specialty club" which means we specialize in German Shepherd Dogs, all clubs need to recognize every venue that our breed participates in. Don't know where you live, but here in Atlanta you are welcome, no matter what you do. Our club meetings are a mix. We do AKC obedience, agility, rally, herding, conformation, and yes schutzhund. The schutzhund working people have "import" show lines and one is doing it with an American champion. A couple of us have both imports and American bred. We respect each other, the venues that each participates in, and each others dogs. No division here. We can also show a newcomer how to "stand" the import for the German style conformation show. It is all different, but it all works together. Mary Gattone, 44 yrs. American conformation ring and two Sch H III dogs. In a message dated 8/12/2009 9:34:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx writes: Stormy, Your ideas and suggestions are great, however when a club has these people as members and continues to insult their "German" dogs or "pet quality" performance dogs or constantly reminding the membership that "we are a "Breed" club, people are turned off. When a Specialty club's board is monopolized by conformation people who really don't give a hoot about the concerns of the performance people, they will leave. A split board works better! When you have a Membership Chair that screens calls of potential new members and finds they have a non conformation type dog and states this club is not for you, you are heading for destruction. The term "Specialty" as defined by the AKC means breed specific. Not conformation only. Breed specific means all types that are registered as that breed, not just the ones that are shown in the conformation ring. These people, when they are members, want to be a part of the club, work the events, take pride in their club, but they also want equal representation from their board, they want to have equal say in what happens within their club and they should! So until this very old mentality has been buried and a union of all aspects of the breed becomes welcomed with no prejudice, you will see more and more people going elsewhere and more Specialty clubs going under. Why are some people like this? I can't answer for them, however I do know that when someone feels threatened or paranoid and not comfortable in their own skin, they will try to control by any means and that controlling is the road to a dead end. Are all clubs like this? No. But I think there are way too many that are or there are too many people that express these things, be it ring side or even on the list. If you don't have something positive to say, then don't say anything. Are people entitled to their opinions? Yes, but not at the expense of others if they want things to work out as a whole. This is just my opinion from what I have seen and heard. Lyn Chernak ~ CherLyn Shepherds ~ Three Generations ~ GSDCA 13 Club ~ Membership CherLyn's Dixie, BH, CDX, RAE, TC, HIC, CGC --- On Mon, 8/10/09, Stormy Hope <Stormy435@xxxxxxx> wrote: From: Stormy Hope <Stormy435@xxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: question for candidates To: TISHW@xxxxxxx Cc: dan-ann@xxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 8:00 PM More than friendly and fun, is the real need to be innovative with new programs. We just had a few listers talk about the many talents the GSD has... yet MOST of the regional clubs stick with conformation, and conformation only. If there was true encouragement to the rally, agility, obedience, herding aficionados, maybe even invite a schutzhund club to have a demonstration, then be friendly and welcoming to those people. If there is some reason for them to join the club, they will. But if their main interest is rally, agility, obedience, herding (or schutzhund) and all they hear/see at the club meeting is conformation, why would they return? Just a thought. Stormy On Aug 10, 2009, at 4:45 PM, TISHW@xxxxxxx wrote: > Sally, > > This is a really tough one because money is not the answer. The > regional > clubs are basically the only ones who can help themselves. The PC > can > offer suggestions but in the long run the only way the regional > clubs will > survive is if they increase their memberships. That has to be done > on a local > level. Being friendly to newcomers at shows and having meetings > which are > fun and interesting help a lot in getting new people involved. ===========================================================================P OST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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