[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: question for Clubs & candidates
- From: "Sue Mazzeo" <Sue.Mazzeo@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "showgsd-l digest users" <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 08:49:40 -0700
Lyn,
I'm not quite sure what you are disagreeing with in Carolyn's post. It was
quite accurate for GSDC Sacramento Valley. She just didn't include all of the
performance that we have sponsored over the years. We have done tracking tests
and CGC tests in addition to Obedience/Rally at the shows and the previous
herding trials. And we are about to apply for our first WDS trial.
Our current membership includes a member who is heavily involved in SchH but
also does Obedience, Rally, Tracking and Conformation with her German style
dogs. Do we all agree on what we want in a GSD? Absolutely not, (not even
among the 'conformation' people) but we do have some interesting discussions
because everyone is willing to listen without putting anyone else's dog down.
We have always over the years kept the obedience and now rally with our
conformation show. And worked very hard to make both rings equal in trophies
and every other way possible.
A lot of the conformation dogs in our club also do other things whether it is
herding, agility or obedience. The current dogs with CHs in front of their
names are almost all working toward adding the balance at the other end with a
performance title.
I've had a theory for years that whenever people put on a set of blinders and
only see one aspect of the breed, they are doomed to loose what attracted they
to the breed in the first place. Because with any breed, it takes the right
combination of breed type, soundness, temperament and working ability to make
it what it is supposed to be. If you concentrate on only one aspect and ignore
the others, you will loose the other aspects. And that applies to the
conformation orientated person as well as the performance orientate person.
Enjoy training and competing with your dogs, it's a wonderful feeling to earn
titles. But please don't write off the conformation as it is also necessary
for the dogs to be successful.
Sue Mazzeo
Heiterhaus Celesta CDX TDX TC
Mar Haven's Ante Up NA OAC NJC NGC
Skansen's Career Girl CD TD, Can CD
Mar Haven's Orchid Serenade
(CH Mar Haven's Last Cowboy Song ex GV CH Mar Haven's Black Orchid) Watch for
her next spring in conformation!
From: Lyn Chernak <cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: question for Clubs & candidates
Carolyn,
You are correct in your example of recipe for failure. And yes, most clubs are
conformation people. But at that point I will agree to disagree with other
comments made. After considerable thought given to this discussion (and some
private emails) I have decided that my time and energy would be more beneficial
to training my dogs for upcoming Trials and the National. Only time will give
way to the actions of those in authority, be it a club, an organization or
group.
Lyn Chernak ~ CherLyn Shepherds ~ Three Generations ~ GSDCA 13 Club ~
Membership CherLyn's Dixie, BH, CDX, RAE, TC, HIC, CGC
--- On Thu, 8/13/09, Carolyn Martello <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Carolyn Martello <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: question for Clubs & candidates
To: DestinoGS1@xxxxxxx, cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx, "Tish Walker" <TISHW@xxxxxxx>,
"Stormy Hope" <Stormy435@xxxxxxx>, dan-ann@xxxxxxxx, "The List"
<showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 2:23 AM
Yeah...............but..............
If a Club or Organization or group chooses to "insult" any other group of
German Shepherd Dog owner
or exhibitor or competitor whether German Bred, or Rally or "Pet Owner" for
ANY reason.....I would
assume they deserve to fail.
If a Membership Chair responds to an inquiry into a Club as Lyn stated by
screening calls and only
showing interest in "Conformation" dogs or owners.......YOU NEED A NEW
MEMBERSHIP CHAIR!!!
NO Club or Organization or group should put up with that type of elitist
attitude!
A recipe for failure!
Most of the Clubs ARE "Conformation" people.... yes...but lets be fair.....it
is the Conformation people that
are working hard to keep the Shows going and the Clubs afloat. We do need
Conformation, or the Breed
will fade out as a Breed.
Our Club's Board IS Conformation people......including Aussie Conformation
people....<G>......but so far
that IS the workers we get. We're glad to have them and anyone else willing
to help or work..........<G>
Our Club welcomes anyone truly interested in the Breed and the betterment of
the Breed whether through
SchH, Rally, Herding, conformation, competing and training at any level and
just loving pet owners....they
ARE the Breed!
Our GSDC of Sacramento Valley tries very hard to meet the needs and interests
of all. We work hard to
put on Rally and Obedience with our Specialty Shows....and it IS hard. Next
year to keep it going we will
pay helpers as our Obedience people can't do it alone with the entries we get.
This year our Club is working to put on a WDS Trial next year.......hoping it
works as it is a first for us.
We have someone new involved in SchH and we LOVE IT!! We welcome any and
every venue and are
doing all we can to "reach out".
We put on a Herding Trial for years.......until some of the Herding People
decided to "blackball" us because
we didn't hold our Trials where they wanted and utilize the sheep they wanted!
We used the good sheep at
the Ranch where our Trial was held ........so at risk of going bankrupt we
gave up our Herding Trial. Sad that
another group in a Club nearby ( not conformation people ) would try to
undermine another Specialty Club
like that. But ....they did. So sometimes we fail......but not for lack of
our Specialty Club trying in all venues.
We are now trying two shows in one day for us, and two in one day for the
GSDReno Club to help out Reno
We fit it all in one weekend to try to make it work for enough helpers. It is
tiring and hard......but it is working
so far .........as long as exhibitors continue to support our shows. <G>
None of our Conformation people waste time criticizing or insulting "pet" or
"German Style" dogs.....ever.
Any of us with half a brain know that there are many pets in every
litter.....and they are the very base of
any and every Breed. And .......who doesn't love a beautiful red German
dog?? <G>
Lets not condemn one group or Club as it is the individual persons that make or
break a Club..... JMO...
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.Marhaven.com
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