I have a friend with a litter of Border Collie puppies. She whelped and is raising the litter for someone else. We're a lot more familiar with the "herding" line Border Collies (which is what we both have), but this is a "show line" (like from Australia) bitch. One of the puppies in the litter is SIGNIFICANTLY smaller than the others. When they were born, she was just a couple of ounces smaller, but she's now 1/3 the size of the others (or less). She's a strong nurser, her eyes opened just a day later than the others and she's beginning to toddle around and bark like the others do....only she's tiny. The puppies are now 17 days old. Question #1: What is the earliest that you supplement feeding? This a.m., after the puppy was done nursing, Janet mixed up a little esbilac, water, and ID. The puppy LOVED it and wanted more. Janet is considering doing this after the puppy has nursed to just try and get more into her.....any comments? Are they still too young? Question #2: Does anyone know if pituitary dwarfism runs in Australian-type border colies? None of our herding friends that breed BCs have ever had it, but the Australian dogs are TOTALLY different....looks & genetics. I know these aren't GSDs, but figured this group had the most knowledge of any group that *I* know :-) Thanks! Julie Degen ejdegen@xxxxxxx www.caissonkennels.com Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole. -Roger Caras ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================