Many of the people who wrote in response to the puppy mill thread mentioned it is the irresponsible owners who contribute hugely to this. I agree wholeheartedly with this one. Every breed club on the internet has information on how to buy a purebred puppy from a reputable breeder, just about every kennel club, every obedience club, and every rescue organization does too. The breed and kennel clubs I belong to put out tons of information on the purchase and raising of puppys, not to mention spend alot of time and effort doing it. Most dog shows you go to have an information booth. Many kennel clubs run adds in the pets for sale column in the newspaper offering reputable breeder contacts. ON the other hand, the commercial kennels I see going in around here ( amish puppy mill country) are getting bigger and bigger...hundreds of puppies per year. Obviously the commercial breeders are selling puppies. I don't have any answers, but it sure doesn't seem like our message is getting out. Yesterday, I spent a couple of hours keeping a friend company in the waiting room at her Vets office. She was waiting for her champion Boston Terrier to have a semi-emergency C-section. While we were there, a couple came in with their obviously BYB-bred Lab. ( Narrow skull, tail over the back ect.) The dog pulled them in the door, nails curled and sliding on the floor. They announced to the receptionist their dog hadn't eaten for three days, was vomiting brown fluid, had swollen glands and his pee was orange. ( Lepto?) The dog pulled them across the waiting room and then tried to lift his leg on a chair. They finally sat down and repeatedly told the dog to sit, Sit, SIT! Which he of course, ignored. They let the dog go up to every other dog in the place and sniff noses. When he came up to my friend and I, we both leaned back and crossed our arms over our chests. The guy seemed insulted and pulled the dog back. The only thing I could think of was how many people sitting there were thinking how "bad" large breed dogs are. Thank goodness it wasn't a GSD. When my friend went back to see her new puppies, I spoke to the people about keeping thier dog next to them so he wouldn't make any of the other dogs sick. They seemed surprised at this. Sigh....SueT ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================