[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: puppy mill?

  • From: Susan Madlung <Stormygsd@xxxxxxx>
  • To: Elsyd1@xxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 11:04:19 -0700

please describe a "puppy mill fanatic".. i don't beleive I am one, but have 
seen enough to know that some "breeders" actually operate as puppy mills.. not 
based on numbers, but other factors as previously mentioned.

----- Original Message -----
From: Elsyd1@xxxxxxx
Date: Thursday, June 2, 2005 10:25 am
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: puppy mill?

> 
> 
> This is a beautiful example of how the "puppy mill" fanatics paint 
> everyone  
> with the same dirty brush. Thanks for writing, we are all still 
> learning. I 
> envy  you your life.  Syd
> 
> 
> In a message dated 6/2/2005 5:37:14 AM Pacific Standard Time,  
> hsrsh@xxxxxxxxx writes:
> Just a  quick answer on 6 litters per year. You can not assume 
> this makes one 
> a  puppy mill. We have 6 or more litters per year every year. We 
> DO NOT SELL  
> OUR PUPS. They are all raised loved and cared for by the 4 of us. 
> We sell  
> adult dogs who do not make our racing team. We have a very large 
> kennel (  
> aprox 2 acres)on 80 acres of land with a 2 acre exercise yard and 
> my  German 
> shepherd dog runs are 40 x 60. I have 6 German shepherds and  
> average 60 - 90 
> AKC Siberian Huskies and Alaskan Huskies. We race  competitively 
> and have 
> dogs of all ages up to 15 years old right now. We  sell adult dogs 
> all over 
> the world. Switzerland, Germany, Italy, France,  and Canada to 
> name some of 
> the countries our dogs are in. Does selling  adult dogs make us a 
> puppy mill? 
> We race 8-12 dogs on a team on average.  We train teams up to 16 
> dog at a 
> time. We spend all day out with a teams.  They exercise and are 
> feed the best 
> foods and have the best care I can  think of. We are successful 
> because of 
> the TIME we spend with our dogs. We  have the top Mid distance 
> Siberians in 
> the world. Does this make us a  puppy Mill? I don't think so.
> 
> L: Labor
> U: Under
> C:  Controlled
> K: Knowledge
> 
> Sincerely,
> Linda Ruhl
> ----- Original  Message ----- 
> From: <pruett@xxxxxxxxx>
> To:  <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 10:21  AM
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] puppy mill?
> 
> 
> > >Msg: #4 in  digest
> >>Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 05:49:07 -0400 (EDT)
> >>From:  Colleen Donnelly <gsdsforlife@xxxxxxxx>
> >>Subject: Re:  Interesting legislation....
> >
> >>I am tired and about to hit  head to pillow but I did pick up on 
> this one
> >>statement "6 litters a  year is NOT a lot!!!!! "
> >
> >>Whaaaatttt???  6 litters a  year is NOT a breeding facility that 
> has alot 
> >>of
> >>hands  on time with dogs.... it is a puppy mill. That is NOT a 
> facility  
> >>that is
> >>breeding for the betterment of the  breed.
> >
> >>If in fact we are speaking of animals that are  sentient beings, 
> like us 
> >>human
> >>animals, canines are  also sentient beings. NO ONE can give all 
> those brood
> >>bitches,  studs and pups as much time as they deserve!.
> >
> > Well, I guess it  depends on who the person is and what their 
> obligations 
> > are.
> >  I, for example, have no husband, no children, and no close 
> family near  
> > where I
> > live.  I can often work from home on my job, and  can spend a 
> lot of time 
> > with
> > my dogs.  If you have more  than one breed (I raise and show 
> shepherds and
> > shelties) and if you  co-own with other people, it is not hard 
> to have your 
> > name
> >  appear as breeder on 7 litters of puppies in a year.  If we, as 
> a fancy,  
> > are
> > going to make the word breeder a dirty word and become  
> judgemental of 
> > others
> > without taking into account individual  situations, then our 
> sport probably 
> > is
> > doomed.  It's a  slippery slope, and it looks like the AKC has 
> just started 
> >  down
> > it.  The laws on the books now are sufficient to take care  of 
> those who 
> > abuse
> > their animals - this new law is aimed at  getting at the rest of 
> us.  I
> > certainly don't want more  restrictions on what I love to do 
> just because 
> > others
> > aren't  as responsible as I am.
> >
> > Laurie Pruett
> >  
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