Its not me, someone on the list lost a 7 weerk old pup, and now is losing another from a different litter. Terry Cochran <fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi Ann, How old was the pup when it passed away. I have lost 2 pups to E coil from feeding raw to 7 week old pups. It was commercially pack food so I thought it to be safe. Never again will I feed raw to a puppy. I feed dry dog food and don't give supplements. Never have. I won't feed a diet that requires a ton of supplements. I am not going to waste time investigating if the meat I'm feeding to my dogs is range fed. I don't do it for me and I know I won't do it for my dogs. The dry dog food seems to be work just fine. Izzy turns 14 in Oct. Jesse is looking great a 10.5 Margo is in great shape at 8. I photographed her today doing hurdles. I may breed her one more time before she gets any older. Maybe not. Terry Ann Mariano <brittaleahnasa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: If You looked at the article you would see where I found the information, from a VET. And as you know from expereince I DO feed RAW meat/bones to my dogs. I am trying to HELP someone to dfind anwers on why a pup has died and another may be dying. You don;t need to be so defensive. Here are some more VET articles for you to read to update your own knowlege: http://avmajournals.avma.org/doi/abs/10.2460/javma.228.10.1524?cookieSet=1&journalCode=javma http://jvdi.org/cgi/reprint/5/3/372.pdf Here is an article form a RAW feeder, acknowledging there is ALWAYS a small risk http://www.caberfeidh.com/Safe.htm which "may" be the reason behind these pups since this is one of the changes she did. Edwin Hill wrote: don't know where you got your vet's license from but salmonella rarely affects healthy dogs...their internal system was built for RAW meat...that's why they have fangs to rip flesh and powerful jaws to crush RAW bones...if they were built to eat processed dry nuggets out of a bag they would have teeth like cows and horses...I don't know why the dog in question died...but don't blame raw meat, because that's what nature meant for our dogs to eat...and trust me I couldn't care less what folks feed their dogs...but lets keep the facts straight...Ed Hill Ann Mariano wrote: Posssible salmonellos or bacterial meningitis from the raw meat Read this article: http://wcco.com/local/local_story_151091209.html Ann Marie www.geocities.com/amarigermanshepherds/Amari.html Home of Ch Fairway's Leah v Nadelwald TC OFA R/Best in Futurity Ch Amari's Ava Gardner TC OFA Ch Amari's Beware of Foxy Roxy CGC (Group placer) Breeder/Owner of Ch Amari's Bandit of Broadcreek (Multiple Group Placer) Amari's Cinderlla von Hornberger (pointed @ 11 months) Ann Marie www.geocities.com/amarigermanshepherds/Amari.html Home of Ch Fairway's Leah v Nadelwald TC OFA R/Best in Futurity Ch Amari's Ava Gardner TC OFA Ch Amari's Beware of Foxy Roxy CGC (Group placer) Breeder/Owner of Ch Amari's Bandit of Broadcreek (Multiple Group Placer) Amari's Cinderlla von Hornberger (pointed @ 11 months) --------------------------------- Looking for a deal? 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