If I could get a sheep on the other side of the ring, that boy would fly. Got some really nice movement pictures from the herding trial. Denise WilliamsChopper, Chase, Phoenix and Flare http://www.showgermanshepherds.info for show and performance ________________________________ From: Zoa Rockenstein <zrockenstein@xxxxxxxxx> To: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wed, December 22, 2010 9:37:48 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: promoting the breed????? So true. It has been interesting watching the border collies, cattle dogs, kelpies, and aussies, too, and to see that each herding breed has its assets and challenges where moving livestock is concerned. I have learned much about movement, and about the standard, watching our breed trot off lead and do all of the things it needs to do in order to work properly. Take away the leash and the professional handler, add sheep, and everything changes! Don't get me wrong, though! I love my handlers! XXXOOO!!!!! Zoa Dr. Zoa Rockenstein www.riverrockshepherds.com Home of: Grand Ch. RiverRock's Hotel California RN HSAs CHIC (Callie), RiverRock's Straight From The Heart PT (Sera), RiverRock's Karla v. Kenlyn (ch. pointed), Kenlyn's Nakita (Nikki, co-owned with Kent Boyles), and RiverRock's Heart of the Matter (Luke, ch. pointed) ________________________________ From: "Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx" <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx> To: zrockenstein@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wed, December 22, 2010 8:27:36 AM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] promoting the breed????? Yes, that's how I dual titled Cody and his son JR. Totally agree with you. And BTW, after going to all breed herding, don't you have a new appreciation for the entire group??? I know I do. I learned things about different breeds I never would have imagined...love it. That annoying high pitch sheltie bark...it's how they move sheep, lol. They're only ity-bitty after all! The Old English...their "power" is in their coat...ever see one jump up and down to get sheep out of a corner...and so on. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions In a message dated 12/22/2010 9:23:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, zrockenstein@xxxxxxxxx writes: I totally agree with you, Kathy. And I will add one. I am promoting the breed >when I compete with my GCH in herding events, and she defeats the dogs that >usually win these events. People are amazed that a German Shepherd is doing >the work it was originally intended to do. They are further amazed that a >show >quality German Shepherd is doing it. I think it is sad that they are amazed. >This should be a given. What have we done? I would rather have a German >Shepherd that is correct, well balanced, healthy, and doesn't spook from the >judge than one whose only crowning glory is side gait. But, that's just me. > > >Zoa >Dr. Zoa Rockenstein >www.riverrockshepherds.com > >Home of: Grand Ch. RiverRock's Hotel California RN HSAs CHIC (Callie), >RiverRock's Straight From The Heart PT (Sera), RiverRock's Karla v. Kenlyn >(ch. >pointed), Kenlyn's Nakita (Nikki, co-owned with Kent Boyles), and RiverRock's >Heart of the Matter (Luke, ch. pointed) > > > >----- Original Message ---- >From: "Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx" <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx> >To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Sent: Wed, December 22, 2010 7:29:14 AM >Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] promoting the breed????? > >John are you implying that only Specialty shows promote the breed? How >sad. (Normally I would say misguided, myopic, ill informed and just plain >wrong but I'm trying to be nice here.) > >If I take a walk in the local park this afternoon with a beautiful puppy to >socialize it and run into a half dozen people who oooohhhh and ahhhhhh >over my beautiful, correct, well groomed puppy, petting it and ENJOYING the >experience as we chat and perhaps I answer their questions, I am promoting >the breed. If I take a dog to my nephew's sporting events and end up with a >crowd of children and adults loving on my dog, THAT is promoting the >breed. If my state federation needs a speaker at a school to talk about >dogs >and I share one of my beautiful, well mannered dogs, THAT is promoting the >breed. For God's sakes, when I take a dog to the vet for a rabies booster >and they sit quietly in the waiting room, oblivious to the chaos around them >and welcoming an admiring pat, THAT is promoting the breed. > >If I take my beautiful, correct dogs to AKC all breed events, allowing >anyone and everyone who wants to pet and love on them, I am promoting the >breed. I've sent a special into the ring with red with red white and blue >cotton candy stuck in his coat left there seconds before by a tiny >hand...proof that I NEVER say "no" when someone asks if they can pet my dog, >It's > >NEVER a bad time, it's NEVER inconvenient...that my friend is promoting the >breed. > >And I agree with Penny. The all breed events are where you find the >majority of "non GSD" spectators. > >Tell you what...breed healthy, correct, beautiful dogs that you can take >anywhere, anytime for admiring hands to touch. You'll be promoting the >breed. > > >Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC >Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions >visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) > > >In a message dated 12/22/2010 8:04:53 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, >ketchy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > >A GOOD DOG can be shown in both rings. Most dogs I've shown have been >able to do that and ALL should. You talk about the all breed ring as >a separate entity; it is NOT. I can't tell you the number of times >I've been approached by shepherd people and OTHER fanciers who >congratulate me for the wins or just to tell me that they like my >dog! More breeders and a lot more spectators see our dogs at all >breed shows. If that doesn't promote the breed, I don't know what does! > >Penny in NC >**************************************************************************** >********************************************** > >And I am kind of lost by showing your dog at an all breed ring, how >does that help promote the ring? It helps the AKC make money, but how >does it promote the breed compared to a specialty? Does it have >specialties for the gs, does AKC have other venues for strictly the >GS? NO!! So tell me how does it promote the breed? > >John Garnett > >===========================================================================>POST > > is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the > >original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS >of >any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of >the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > >Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. 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