[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: problem

  • From: barbara17236@xxxxxxx
  • To: marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:39:00 -0400

The Repro seminars I have attended told us frozen can be?expected to live 
for?12 hours after implantation.? The 2 repro vets I have actual experience 
with, do the implant in the high teens.? However, one of them has successfully 
done them in the high 20s.? And, I perosnally know of a breeder whose 
vet?did?one in the high 30s, and the bitch whelped a litter of 10 pups! 
I have spoken with many vets about ovulation timing, fresh and frozen 
implantation, and the different opnions are amazing.? I have even had the vet 
on the sending end, and the vet on the receiving end, disagree!? It's a wonder 
any of the bitches get pregnant.

Barb H





-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Martello <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: barbara17236@xxxxxxx; louroshepherds@xxxxxxxxx; Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Fri, Jul 31, 2009 1:47 am
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: problem



Frozen semen only lasts for about 17 .......possibly 24 hrs. at MOST.
The Surgical Implant should be done when her progesterone numbers are 20 to 22  
with frozen.
Fresh chilled semen lasts about 5 days.....you do the implant when numbers 
would 
be anywhere from
10  to 16 typically........couple of days after 5.5  or 8.5  "assuming"  it 
will 
be at the higher numbers by then.
Personally I wouldn't advise using frozen semen on a "weird"  
season................<G>

Carolyn    marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.Marhaven.com

  Hi Louie:
  My experience with progesterone testing and frozen implants is we keep doing 
progesterone testing until the number 
  is in the high teens.? It is possible she really didn't ovulate the first 
time, and is having a split season.? 
  You would have needed at least one more progesterone test to be sure she kept 
rising past 10.?? 

  I would be interested in hearing what your repro vet has to say.

  B Hively

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Louis Christina <louroshepherds@xxxxxxxxx>To: 
showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: 
Thu, Jul 30, 2009 9:35 pm
  Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] problem



  Need some of the great knowledge from the list. One of my Champion bitches is 
having weird seasons. 
  Her seasons have been normal until 7 or so months ago. she came in season 
(normal season) went out 
  for 4 or 5 days and came back in season  again normal season. Didn't think 
much about it and just
   thought it was a freaky season. 7 months later she comes in season and we 
are 
going to breed her 
  using  frozen sperm (normal season)we thought. progesterone 1.8 then 5.3 then 
10. ? (I 
  forgot) the Vet. then did surgical implant which from the first day I saw 
blood to implant was 22 days. 4 or 5 
  days later she comes in season again, today smear was done and progesterone 
taken and is @ 5.6. 
  A blood sample was sent to lab last week to A&M and waiting results.   Doing 
another progesterone test 
  tomorrow.    Vet (reproduction specialist) best in this part of the country 
be 
back in town 
  Mo
nday. Not sure what is going on yet. Any one ever came across this situation 
or have any comments. 
  Thank you. Th
   e list is great. ____Louie    


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