[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: positives of debarking
- From: gsdlady28@xxxxxxx
- To: Wasatchgld@xxxxxxx, Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx, cyndyinseattle@xxxxxxxxxxx, pruett@xxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 14:43:57 -0400
Thank you! Well said, and totally the point I was trying to make! I think if
someone has never actually been put in the situation where they had a bad
barker and a neighbor who either turned you in or threatened your dogs, they
just can't understand it. In some places with tough anti dog laws, you really
can get some stiff fines and yes, even have your dogs confiscated! I have a
friend who had her first CH foundation bitch (at like 6 years old!)poisoned by
her neighbors....knew he did it, even saw him throw a dead rat in with her
dogs, but police would not do anything because she could not prove
anything.....plus she had barking dogs so it was all her fault anyway in their
eyes. Unless you have been there, you really can't understand it is a lesser of
many evils!
Maggie Marshall
Aeval German Shepherds
http://hometown.aol.com/gsdlady28/index.html
Website Updated 03/21/2007
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From: Wasatchgld@xxxxxxx
To: GSDLady28@xxxxxxx; Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx; cyndyinseattle@xxxxxxxxxxx;
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Sent: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: positives of debarking
I don't debark all my dogs, but I have done several over the last 18 years.
I've never had any serious complications - most recover quickly from the
anesthesia, and never seem to realize anything was done with their throat.
I've had a few persistant barkers that got back a partial bark, but never with
the volume they had before. I can hear them if they need to get my attention,
but the neighbors on the next block don't, and even the ones next door tell
me they don't find it disturbing. The key to preventing scar tissue is keeping
the dog quiet until fully healed. That isn't easy when the dog isn't in any
real pain or discomfort and doesn't believe he or she has anything to recover
from!
Any surgery or procedure requiring anesthesia does carry a risk. I know
several people who have lost dogs from being altered, two that had dogs
die within 24 hours of a teeth cleaning, and a few who told me their dogs
died while under anesthesia. I also know a couple who lost bitches due to
badly timed oxytoxin shots, and one who lost a bitch after a c-section.
There have also been several outbreaks of poisenings around here over
the years where someone throws poisened meat over the fence to kill the
dog instead of making a complaint to AC.
Debarking, like anything else, requires you to weigh the risks with the
alternatives. If you can train a dog to be quiet, that's obviously the best
solution. However, if the dog is a persistant 'talker', the surgery is less
risky than taking a chance that he will be seized as a 'nuisance' - possibly
along with your other dogs, or that some dog hater will silence all of
your dogs with poisen or a gun while you aren't home.
Janice
In a message dated 4/1/2007 10:30:42 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
gsdlady28@xxxxxxx writes:
That is so sad....luckily I never had any problems like that with it and have
not heard of anyone else having that problem either....maybe the method it was
done by was different? Esp if both done by same vet and both having same
problem? Have not had it done to anyone in like 10 years, not sure what has
changed since the last time!
Maggie Marshall
Aeval German Shepherds
http://hometown.aol.com/gsdlady28/index.html
Website Updated 03/21/2007
-----Original Message-----
From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx
To: cyndyinseattle@xxxxxxxxxxx; GSDLady28@xxxxxxx; pruett@xxxxxxxxx;
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Sent: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: positives of debarking
In a message dated 4/1/2007 1:53:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
cyndyinseattle@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
The down the throat method is what was done to my Pap - it didn't take,
built up scar tissue and got worse, and it WAS redone a few months later,
and still no good.
I know debarking is better than having to give a dog up, but I have a friend
with 2 GSDs who had them debarked and several times a year each will get
pneumonia or severe bronchitis because of the scar tissue that they developed
after debarking. They go from zero to really sick and spike high fevers in a
matter of hours and it's thought that it's much like the pneumonia that dogs
with mega get when food particles etc. go down "the wrong pipe" into their
lungs.
That's all I need to know:( I've been through it with her when she's been up
around the clock for several days trying to cheat death one more time, so it's
not for me.
Kathy
member GSDCA, DVGSDC
three generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions live here!
visit Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs
Janice Buchanan
Wasatch-Gold German Shepherds
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thinking. If we were smarter, they wouldn't need to."
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