Original post: "You don't throw out an outstanding individual for one trait....you just don't" Original post: "lovely winning but genetically companion dog" You throw them out if the one trait is proven to increase the incidence of a crippling health problem or similar. I think that the statement by Kathy "lovely winning but genetically companion dog" is the best I've ever heard it put. That goes for show and or working dogs. We imported a V rated SchH2 dog that had all the right stuff, except he couldn't tell the difference between my infant son's crying and a kitten's mew. Now remember, the GSD is the breed of discernment, an inborn love and tolerance for children and temperament is the paramount virtue of this breed, so, saying this, that dog was GONE, all hefty price tag and all. He went to a police department to chase bad guys. That one bad trait eliminated him from our bloodlines FOREVER and ALL his good points couldn't make up for the one bad. People's lives depend on temperament and puppies' lives depend on healthy parents.. Rachel & the Ark An American Working Dog Kennel Doing Our Part To Take A Bite Out Of Crime Since 1986! http://aaronswoodsarabians.homestead.com http://www.k9-workshop.com http://segensreich.homestead.com Proud Blue Star Mom of PFC Aaron Anderson, USMC "There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle." - Albert Einstein ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================