Even when I was breeding years ago I don't think the Review was a great tool for selling puppies. I advertised more to let others know what I was doing or had bred than to sell puppies. Most puppies were sold locally or through the recommendation of someone. There was no internet then to advertise on as there is now. If no one wants to advertise in the Review, then maybe we should just eliminate it and go with the internet. (Now - that is what I call stirring the pot a little!! LOL) Tish In a message dated 1/11/2012 2:42:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, zrockenstein@xxxxxxxxx writes: Unfortunately, I would have to agree with you. I placed my first (and probably last) two-page color ad in the Review in the Nov-Dec issue. My main objective was just to share the results of my relatively new breeding program with fellow GSDCA members. This, of course was an easy objective to meet. It would have been a lot nicer if the ad had gone to all gsd judges, however. A secondary objective was to promote my new litter and to see how a Review ad would stack up against online litter advertising. It didn't. I received around 5 responses to my very expensive Review ad. Most were from my regional club members who knew what I was up to anyway. I received a couple of nice comments from Listers. None of the responses addressed my puppies. My online ads paid off well where the litter was concerned. I have one on my regional club site (that one works the best for me every time), one on the GSDCA site, and one on the AKC site. All of these ads more than paid for themselves. Luckily, they will also pay for the Review ad. All of the ads included a link to my kennel website. The combination of online ads and a website link works best for me. I want to support the Review with advertising, but the advertising needs to do its job. I am not sure what needs to change about Review advertising, but something needs to change if we are going to attract enough advertisers to the Review. Dr. Zoa Rockenstein _www.riverrockgermanshepherds.com_ (http://www.riverrockgermanshepherds.com/) Home of Multiple Group Winner GCH RiverRock's Hotel California (Callie) HSAs RN BN Group Winner Ch. RiverRock's Straight From The Heart HSAsd and the new kid RiverRock's One Fine Day From: Joan Fox <campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx> To: "TISHW@xxxxxxx" <TISHW@xxxxxxx>; "rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx" <rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx>; "rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx" <rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx>; "showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 1:26 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: online ads It's not sent to any judges and never has been so that is another reason why there is no point in advertising. Joan Joan F. Fox website: http://www.campaignersgsds.com 17500 Haskins Rd. Chagrin Falls, Ohio 44023 Cell: 440-759-4119 >________________________________ > From: "_TISHW@xxxxxxxx (mailto:TISHW@xxxxxxx) " <_TISHW@xxxxxxxx (mailto:TISHW@xxxxxxx) > >To: _campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxxx (mailto:campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx) ; _rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxxx (mailto:rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx) ; _rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxxx (mailto:rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx) ; _showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) >Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 2:24 PM >Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: online ads > > >I don't believe the Review is sent to all GS judges each month. Susan or Dania would know for sure probably. > >Tish > >In a message dated 1/11/2012 2:21:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, _campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxxx (mailto:campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx) writes: >OK...this is a catch 22. >>The advertising has been going steadily down.... less and less $$$$ generated. >>There are app. 350 GS judges to send to last time I looked. Might be less now as we are an older group of people. LOL >> >>How could the club afford to do this each month? >>Joan >> >> >>Joan F. Fox >>website: _http://www.campaignersgsds.com_ (http://www.campaignersgsds.com/) >>17500 Haskins Rd. >>Chagrin Falls, Ohio 44023 >> >>Cell: 440-759-4119 >> >> >>>________________________________ >>> From: Kathy Tank <_rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxxx (mailto:rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx) > >>>To: _rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxxx (mailto:rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx) ; _showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) >>>Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 2:09 PM >>>Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: online ads >>> >>>Well Dog News has been doing that for years...and multiple breeds..so it >>>can be done obviously, yes? >>>Kathy >>>*_http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com*_ (http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com*/) >>>* <_http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com/_ (http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com/) >**UPDATED: Dec 29**, 2011* >>>*CH. Elvaston's Nations Cup TC, 26 BOBs >>>CH. Victory's Leviathan >>>**CH. Garter's E-Male of Fran-Jo Anne Isle * >>>* >>>* >>>*"Victory...*Vires et honestas" >>> >>> >>>On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Ruth Scheubler <_rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxxx (mailto:rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx) >wrote: >>> >>>> And how do you suggest it be done? >>>> Ruth >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: Diane Brantley <_texasgsds@xxxxxxxxxx (mailto:texasgsds@xxxxxxxxx) > >>>> To: "_showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) " <_showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:37 AM >>>> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] online ads >>>> >>>> Any ads should be distributed to all judges approved to judge GSD's. It >>>> doesn't do advertisors any good for me to see their ads, except that I >>>> might like their dog, because I am not a judge and I have never bred a >>>> litter. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>========================================================================= ==>POST is Copyrighted 2011. 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