I completely agree, have a friend with a large kennel in Tennessee. Damn Vet up there took x-rays 3 times and could not get OFA approval; had her visit my Vet, he took the X rays, OFA Excellent. X-rays are a science and Art and my Vet is Michealangelo. Morgan Ruth Scheubler <rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: what an excellent post -- thanks for sending it. Ruth Peggy wrote: Another list I'm on has been discussing hip X-rays and OFA ratings. One of the women on the list works for an orthopedic surgeon (human), and also has a good relationship with one of the vets in her area who does a lot of hip x-rays, most of which pass with a Good rating. She sent the following post to that list this morning: I'm shocked over and over at how many vets do not understand (or the tech) how to line up a dog for a Hip Xray, and how many xrays are taken incorrectly and sent in. OFA reads the film in front of them. They do reject films that are simply too bad to read, but my ortho who works with OFA indicated they rate what is sent in most of the time and probably 80% of the films are somewhat off center. He reads film often times to help decide if the film was taken correctly. I have gotten to be pretty good at reading an xray and I can see pretty fast if that dog was lined up. I have 1 OFA Fair and 2 OFA Goods (My OFA boy who is Fair has 6 offspring rated from various vets on the West coast, all OFA Good) When he was 4 and neutered they captured a straight film and I had him rated without updated his listing a few years back, he received a Good. Not that a Fair can't produce a lot of OFA Goods...what I did was, I thought he was OFA Fair, so I asked that the bitches be OFA Good or better (with 1 exception, he bred to 1 Fair) What I asked to see along with the rating was film or digital scan, I like to see how good the girls hip sockets are. I'm not as concerned with a Fair as I am with a weak socket, socket conformation is important. Read enough xrays and you appreciate the good points on some.. I organize the xrays at work, foot and ankle...and after reading 1000's of xrays with him, you can really spot things fast. I firmly believe many of the OFA Fairs are probably Goods, they're just taken by mediocre technicians....Some dysplasia or subluxation are simply wrong. Twisting or leaning a dog can make a even a great dog look dysplastic. You can create shadows, space that is or isn't there, same way If I take a human xray incorrectly I can make shadows that look like "things" when there not really there.. My doc will hand them back and have us do them again.. You need to be good at this so you don't shoot the patient so many times.. Same with dogs. Find a competent vet, or you may be spaying and neutering healthy dogs. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. 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