In a message dated 9/27/2006 8:38:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, NHANSBURG@xxxxxxxxxx writes: The date on the OFA sample prelim form is 2002. The last time I sent one in for hips and elbows was August 2001. Perhaps that is why the report forms are different. I don't think so. The oldest one I could find in my records was from 2/17/99, on an 11 month old bitch and it is the same report as the one that is on the web site now. I did find and area on the site where you can ask for a "consultation", and followed that up w/ the next post. I wonder if that's the difference? Although the form I have from 99, the forms since and the one on the website are all labeled Preliminary (Consultation) Report" with the parentheses around "consultation". Maybe a "consultation" request and not a prelim form sent in???? I mean, if the OFA now is publishing studies tracking how final #s compared w/ prelims (excellent/good/fair/borderline/mild/moderate/severe), they've BEEN doing excellent/good/fair/borderline/mild/moderate/severe with the occasional "we don't know, resubmit in 6 months". Somebody should call...not me, lol, I have to get some work done. Kathy member GSDCA, DVGSDC three generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions live here! visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================