A witch hunt? How is at whitch hunt when people are asking for answers that aren't forthcoming? And, let me see, you have 2 people who "have done more for the breed than anyone" in recent history. These same 2 people sell out the GSDCA by selling the #1 puppy wholesaler a show dog, vote this same man into our club and basically endorse him and embarrass our club in the process. The efforts for RALEEF are now a joke. We are the laughing stock of other PC's, rescue organizations, other breeders and any other entity fighting BSL's and puppy mills. It's a FACT that these things happened and we have NO valid answer as to why it happened. It really doesn't matter what one has done in the past, it matters what one has done NOW! And, what these people did now, with no viable explaination, is what fuels the fire. If there is a solid, good reason for this decision, let's hear it. The majority of YES votes, and the one (Carmen) that we all want to hear from, have not given us a viable reason. Witch hunt? NO, this is a large number of people wanting answers and a solution and communication. Laura Thomas -----Original Message----- From: tsaligsds@xxxxxxxxxxx To: Falkrigia@xxxxxxx; Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 10:09 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: not just the Hunte vote AGREED. In my opinion Carmen and Jimmy have done more for this breed than any other two people in the breed in teh past thirty years. We were RARELY considered for group placements until Jimmy came along. Until that time most folks, at least in the East, didn't even STAY for the groups. Jimmy has put points on every one of my champions and finished all but two. Carmen has represented the PC with the AKC for years. He has always been available and helped solve problems for many of the folks on this list. The GSDCA has had many 'firsts' because of Carmen. I have a "connection" to Jim and Carmen, call them both friend, and am darn proud of it! This issue has gone from a problem with the board to a witch hunt. Suzanne Kinman www.tsalishepherds.com Home of BIS/BISS Ch Yancy HIC HT PT RA CD TC CGC BH, Ch Flash, Ch Flair, Ch Mousser, Tess [150 PLUS ROM points/40 ATAA points], Lil' Miss Gilli RN[Mjr Res Winner] and all the others waiting at the bridge. Website updated 11/06 -------------- Original message -------------- From: Falkrigia@xxxxxxx > In a message dated 2/13/2007 5:36:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, Pinehillgsds > writes: > > > there is the connection between Carmen and the breeders of the dog Hunte > > bought/campaigned.... > > my God, do you have any idea how many people in this breed have connections > of one form or another with the breeders of the dog Hunte bought? If that makes > them suspect, it's going to be an awfully long list:-) > > No one makes the right decision on every issue every time so i think it's > important to look at the total picture. The GSD and The GSDCA is in a much > better > position in many areas because of the hard work Carmen has put in over the > years to accomplish things that some thought were close to impossible. So, > why > don't we just let the BOD complete their current discussions and see what the > final outcome of things is. I do think some answers are in order from many > people and I think those will come. > lynda > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 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