I personally believe every club should offer Veterans & Juniors.? I am certain there are enough people out there to sponsor the costs of the ribbons or to donate prizes for these classes so that every club offers them.? I for one will if a club needs it.?? Maybe our Parent Club would also be willing to help clubs host these very much needed and apprecaited classes.? Jeff Pyle -----Original Message----- From: DERAYK9@xxxxxxx To: michel@xxxxxxxxxxx; edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; mcchp@xxxxxxxxx Sent: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 1:39 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: no veteran class at fort wayne shows In a message dated 9/5/2008 9:28:56 AM Central Daylight Time, michel@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: I don't understand the rationale behind not offering a class. It doesn't require another judge or anything special. So what is the big deal? Would the AKC or the GSDCA penalize the club for offering a class and then not having any entries in it? Does it cost more (fees to the AKC) to offer veteran classes? Regards, Michel If the class was offered and there were no entries yes there would be a cost to the club. They have to order the ribbons and trophies so there is your cost. With what is going on with the specialty clubs today that every penny counts just to try and put on another show the following year it dose make a difference. So if you think this is not fair to you im sorry. But you club always join the club to help out and be apart of the festivities. Hope this helps you understand a bit of what is going on today with the specialties. Regards, Dee Friberg **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================