Thanks Zoe...I will try this again OK people..you can't have it both ways...if you want to give the top performance titles to GSD's with no DQ's then a line needs to be put into the premium list stating "the top GSDCA Performance award will be given to a dog that meets the standard and has NO disqualifying faults, this dog may be spayed or neutered, but must meet the GSD standard for Conformation dogs" If you are unwilling to award Obedience/Rally Victor/Vtx to a white dog, then state it clearly and do not take their money..Each of these dogs can win a HIGH IN TRIAL or HIGH COMBINED at an A K C show they do not need our national to do this.... they can do it for less money and no hurt feelings after a great performance...........No I do not nor ever have been a person who shows their dogs in Performance events......(unless you count 1 in 28 years) but have always showed my dogs in the conformation ring..........PLEASE if you do not want to give them the GSDCA highest award in performance events at the national...make it very clear that you also do not want their money Judy ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================