Spoken like a true liberal Evan. LOL . Please everyone don't let him and the Guz get me in a corner at any show. Oh yes, add Paula to those 2. Remember I am old and can't keep up with these young whipper snappers Bob That is an interesting question, but the standard by the AKC is a question of merit. It is possible that you grant BOB and BOS but do not find they have the merit for the GR CH. Say there is a champion that is not what you would give BOB to, but feel he still has the merit, I suppose you could award him GR CH points. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================