I met Fred Migliore in the late 50s !!! I remember,he doesn't but he is older than I !!! It was my first puppy match,Grant Mann judged,during our conversation he remarked that if you weren't a good loser than nobody would ever want you to win.......I did win my puppy class....words to live by....I never clapped for a dog I didn't truely like and I never wanted anyone to applaud for my dogs unless they liked them...I was a sore loser a couple times but I saw a lot of very poor losers too...you were right,I didn't want them to win!!!! Thanks for the advice Fred !!!! Donna Jacot,ArDeJay ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================