On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:43:13 -0700, "L. Hartten" <hartten@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:=20 >Why do a much higher percentage of GSDs have agents >than, say, English Setters? GSDs have, traditionally, always been a "handler" breed, while English setters never have... until now, anyway. :( I've been away from the setter-showing world for many years. But in recent chats with old and very dear breeder friends, it seems that, more and more, you need a handler to win -- even with a *very* good dog. Sad really... It used to be that a very novice owner-handler could walk into the show ring with a good, sound, typey, properly-groomed English setter and beat the handlers. Unfortunately, this no longer seems to be the case, even with longtime owner/breeder/handlers. Another (to me, anyway) unfortunate development in ESs is the apparent need for a "brand name dog" in order to do any real winning in the show ring. <sigh> One would think that the idea of breed competition is NOT necessarily to pick good future breeding stock anymore. If this is the case, then why doesn't AKC allow neutered dogs to compete in conformation classes??? After all... If conformation has become all about the big win, then dogs really don't need working "parts." Think about it. * * * * * Karen C. kmc@xxxxxxxxxxxx They can have my dogs... ...when they pry the leads from my cold, dead hand!!! ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================