[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: new topic
- From: Peggy <pmick@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: john@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 21:53:55 -0500
Hi all -
Yes, John sent this to me this morning...and I chose not to reply
because I was sure it would get to the list sooner or later, and I could
reply then.
I think type is the dog as defined in the Standard. For instance, in
the opening paragraph the following words appear: "The dog is longer
than tall, deep-bodied, and .... It looks substantial and not spindly,...."
I guess maybe deep bodied is subject to interpretation...but I have
always been taught that it means the brisket is lower than the elbow.
As for spindly..to me that means long legs... And these two go
together, because a deep bodied dog will not appear spindly.
In the same paragraph there is this: "Secondary sex characteristics are
strongly marked, and every animal gives a definite impression of
masculinity or femininity, according to its sex."
I don't think that needs any further description...I've been mentioning
this for over a year, and today several other people mentioned it as well.
The Standard goes on to describe the head of the German Shepherd.
OK, I will give you that the dog doesn't run on it's head...but the
description is in there...and it's very clear.
Then we have "Chest: Commencing at the posternum, it is well filled
and carried well down between the legs. It is deep and capacious, never
shallow, with ample room for lungs and heart, carried well forward, with
the posternum showing ahead of the shoulder in profile. The whole
structure of the body gives an impression of depth and solidity without
bulkiness."
I'd like someone to explain depth and solidity to me with some of these
leggy, whippety dogs and bitches in front of us...............please!
The section of the Standard describing the chest reads: "Chest:
Commencing at the posternum, it is well filled and carried well down
between the legs. It is deep and capacious, never shallow, with ample
room for lungs and heart, carried well forward, with the posternum
showing ahead of the shoulder in profile. "
As already stated...well down between the legs doesn't mean at or
above the elbow. As for the prosternum showing ahead of the shoulder,
well, give that one away, as it's hard to find, sometimes. We still
have plenty of dogs with a good prosternum, thank heavens!
I could go on...but there's no point. I'm not talking "style,"
John...I'm talking type...as defined by the written Standard for the breed.
Peggy
John Ayotte wrote:
>I sent this to Peggy this morning, but just realized I didn't send it
>to the list as well...
>and
>
>This choice, however is clouded by two things. First of all, I think
>that most people use the word type incorrectly when they are actually
>referring to style. There are many variations of style that are still
>recognizable as German Shepherds, and therefor have acceptable type.
>If you define type as adherence to the description if the GSD in the
>Standard, then it always comes first, and includes movement. If you
>think of type as the style of dog that matches your interpretation of
>the Standard, then structure and gait are more important than style.
>
>
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