[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: new subect...teeth

  • From: Amy Greenhut <genoaktortoise@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:57:17 +0000 (UTC)

I only have one female to breed because I do not breed a lot of litters. I got 
her when she was eleven months old. I checked her bite of course but did not 
think to actually look in her mouth at all her teeth. It turns out that she has 
a missing molar.....the one right behind the button tooth. She has had two 
litters of puppies.....first litter in nine months old now. All the puppies 
have all their teeth. Second litter is three months old now.....just starting 
to teeth...so do not know yet. I kept a really nice bi-color boy.......hoping 
for all his teeth. She will not be bred for at least another year. I have had 
canines come in as late as six months and button teeth as late as eight months. 
It does make you worry. My Harley had to have all of his baby canine teeth 
pulled. His adult canine's were coming in and the baby canine's were going no 
where!!!  Teeth...it is an interesting subject!!! 
Amy Greenhut 
Justrock German Shepherds 
Gen Oak Leopard Tortoises &  Tortoise Rescue 
Behold The Turtle,  He Makes Progress Only When He Sticks His Neck Out 
A Quote By James B. Conant 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx 
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Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 9:50:14 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] new subect...teeth 

I guess if you live long enough you see everything.... 
  
A little background...my very first ever show prospect, reserved early,   
received at 9 weeks ended up w/ three missing teeth and a wry mouth. 
  
That experience turned me into a bit (understatement!!!!) of a tooth   
fairy... 
  
I don't do an awful lot of breeding, so maybe I grow out a puppy every   
other to third year.  This year is different; I have a year old dog and an   
almost six month old bitch here now....recent enough in proximity for the   
order of teeth coming in with the first one was fresh in my mind. 
  
"Normal" progression of a puppy losing baby teeth/second teeth coming in   
seems to be incisors first then at about 4 months, there is a week or two 
where  their mouth seems to look like hamburger, you can usually see second 
teeth  erupting and for those you can't see, if you feel gently you can feel 
the  tooth below the gum line. 
  
Naturally there have been times with different puppies over the years when   
a baby tooth has come out early due to vigorous play and/or lots of marrow   
bones and I might not be able to feel the second tooth for a week or so.   
Usually though, if you open their little mouths wide, you can see/feel what   
looks to be a "pea in a pod" look when looking directly down at the gum   
line.  If it is a top tooth, it helps to have the puppy lay on its back for 
 a 
belly rub...in fact, in bright sunlight you can sometimes see a lighter 
area  where the second tooth is below the gum line, so on their back in bright 
  
sunlight is ideal...oh yes...tooth fairy here. 
  
I have had a button come in twice as late as five months.  (Lots of   
praying!!!!)  Oh yeah, lots of sitting rubbing their little gum willing the 
 tooth 
to erupt. 
  
BUT, in general, I can see/feel full detention at +/- 4 1/2 months w/ the   
incisors first, pre-molars next,  molars coming in shortly after at roughly   
the same time as the canines. 
  
I noticed something strange (for my experience anyway) w/ my young  puppy 
girl.   
  
Her bottom canines didn't come out until 5 1/2 months and then it took   
another week for me to feel then see the adult tooth coming in.  Her gums 
 were 
swollen...just couldn't see/feel the tip of her second tooth for a  week.   
And isn't 5 1/2 months way late??????? 
  
Can I mention by the time one of mine gets to the ring they are bullet   
proof about having their mouths looked at and that I am a bit of a tooth   
fairy??????  In fact when mom was up recently, I was checking puppy  teeth, 
lots 
of praise, mom did too, the we looked and 5 adult dogs were all  lined up to 
have teeth checked and get praised too...then get in line  again...yeah...a 
bit strange <G>.  (Same thing happens with nail  dremel-ing, ear cleaning, 
having a young boy used to testicles being  checked,  the others line up for 
a check and praise...even the neutered  oldster...being dried off after 
coming in from the rain, even when only some  have been out lol...I 
know...funny farm here.) 
  
Back to teeth...well, thank God puppy girl has full detention and a lovely   
bite...but this experience  got me to thinking about the order of adult   
teeth erupting and when I googled it, I did find several places that seem  to 
reflect my experiences prior to this puppy girl but I found some also say 
the  bottom canines come in last. 
  
???????????????????????????????????????? 
  
Thoughts?????? 
  
  
  
  
  
  
Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC 
Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd  Champions 
visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/)   


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