[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: new subect...teeth
- From: Jessica MacMillan <spotted101@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx>, <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:03:03 -0500
Hi Kathy -
Interesting to read your post. We get bad mouthes in Dals occasionally
(undershot) and so most Dal folks are pretty tuned into the mouthes on their
dogs (although we don't ask for complete dentition).
My experience fits with yours AND if the front teeth come in DIFFERENTLY than
you mention, then it seems like there is more of a chance for jaws to slide.
As for canine teeth. Not sure if there is any set routine for those. We have
retained baby teeth in some lines in our breed and it is usually canines that
won't come out. Most show vets say to wait until the pups are 7 months old to
pull them as canines can come out that late. Not my experience (if they are
still there at 6 months, they are still there at 7 months).
It will be interesting, when you breed this bitch to see what her offspring do,
since I have found SOME bite issues are inherited (though not all because I
bred brother/sister together and both missing the same premolars and the whole
litter had complete dentition).
Does this bitch have nice side alignment and big teeth or does she have short
teeth? I have found that shorter the teeth, the stranger things happen.
Jessica MacMillan
No Frills Dog Bathing Service & Design
Paisley Dals (www.paisleydals.com)
& The Shepherd Girls (Simmie, CGC, TDI, TC, HIC & Pepper, HIC)
Member of: DCA, GSDCA & GTCDC
> From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx
> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 09:50:14 -0400
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] new subect...teeth
> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> I guess if you live long enough you see everything....
>
> A little background...my very first ever show prospect, reserved early,
> received at 9 weeks ended up w/ three missing teeth and a wry mouth.
>
> That experience turned me into a bit (understatement!!!!) of a tooth
> fairy...
>
> I don't do an awful lot of breeding, so maybe I grow out a puppy every
> other to third year. This year is different; I have a year old dog and an
> almost six month old bitch here now....recent enough in proximity for the
> order of teeth coming in with the first one was fresh in my mind.
>
> "Normal" progression of a puppy losing baby teeth/second teeth coming in
> seems to be incisors first then at about 4 months, there is a week or two
> where their mouth seems to look like hamburger, you can usually see second
> teeth erupting and for those you can't see, if you feel gently you can feel
> the tooth below the gum line.
>
> Naturally there have been times with different puppies over the years when
> a baby tooth has come out early due to vigorous play and/or lots of marrow
> bones and I might not be able to feel the second tooth for a week or so.
> Usually though, if you open their little mouths wide, you can see/feel what
> looks to be a "pea in a pod" look when looking directly down at the gum
> line. If it is a top tooth, it helps to have the puppy lay on its back for a
> belly rub...in fact, in bright sunlight you can sometimes see a lighter
> area where the second tooth is below the gum line, so on their back in bright
> sunlight is ideal...oh yes...tooth fairy here.
>
> I have had a button come in twice as late as five months. (Lots of
> praying!!!!) Oh yeah, lots of sitting rubbing their little gum willing the
> tooth
> to erupt.
>
> BUT, in general, I can see/feel full detention at +/- 4 1/2 months w/ the
> incisors first, pre-molars next, molars coming in shortly after at roughly
> the same time as the canines.
>
> I noticed something strange (for my experience anyway) w/ my young puppy
> girl.
>
> Her bottom canines didn't come out until 5 1/2 months and then it took
> another week for me to feel then see the adult tooth coming in. Her gums were
> swollen...just couldn't see/feel the tip of her second tooth for a week.
> And isn't 5 1/2 months way late???????
>
> Can I mention by the time one of mine gets to the ring they are bullet
> proof about having their mouths looked at and that I am a bit of a tooth
> fairy?????? In fact when mom was up recently, I was checking puppy teeth,
> lots
> of praise, mom did too, the we looked and 5 adult dogs were all lined up to
> have teeth checked and get praised too...then get in line again...yeah...a
> bit strange <G>. (Same thing happens with nail dremel-ing, ear cleaning,
> having a young boy used to testicles being checked, the others line up for
> a check and praise...even the neutered oldster...being dried off after
> coming in from the rain, even when only some have been out lol...I
> know...funny farm here.)
>
> Back to teeth...well, thank God puppy girl has full detention and a lovely
> bite...but this experience got me to thinking about the order of adult
> teeth erupting and when I googled it, I did find several places that seem to
> reflect my experiences prior to this puppy girl but I found some also say
> the bottom canines come in last.
>
> ????????????????????????????????????????
>
> Thoughts??????
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
> Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
> visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/)
>
>
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