so you would rather take a chance that a bitch will have to be spayed due to a severe infection, rather than give her antibiotices a vet prescribed. it is my understanding that bitches with pyo will often get it at each heat cycle, whether bred or not, and if not treated will most often have to be spayed. Laura ----- Original Message ----- From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx To: caretti1@xxxxxxxxxxx ; marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; lhavis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; brittaleahnasa@xxxxxxxxx ; Kmgraphic2@xxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: new litter ...litter size That's all well and good Cyndi. The reason I included the info from the drug manufacturer's insert on their OWN drug in my original post is so that folks could do their own homework. The quotes in my post, again, came from the package insert. It wasn't my opinion, it wasn't something I'd "just heard". Right from the insert: "Use with caution in dogs used for breeding purposes, during pregnancy or in lactating bitches." and " Enrofloxacin (Baytril Rx) is reported to cause cartilage abnormalities in growing puppies." If folks want to use it, that's their business obviously. I'm on the record saying I won't. If a bitch had a culture come back bad I'd take care of whatever issue was there and skip the season. I'm not telling other people what to do, just saying what I'd do. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/ In a message dated 9/15/2010 7:42:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, caretti1@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carolyn Martello Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 6:05 PM To: lhavis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; brittaleahnasa@xxxxxxxxx; Kmgraphic2@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: new litter ...litter size <The other thing is that Dr. Bob Hutchinson ( That's "the" Dr. Hutch ) will pooh pooh ANY concerns about myco plasma......and yet at his Seminars now.......HE will tell you that he recommends that ALL bitches after being bred be put on 10 days of Baytril ( no real reason ) and that the results from that is that they are having a LOT more success with bitches conceiving and whelping big healthy litters.> ************************************************************************* Dr. Hutchinson gave the education seminar at the National last year. I pulled out my notes from that night...... He stated that a recent study had been done that found that the use of antiobiotics before breeding was not helpful, but that Batryl given for 10 days after breeding increased conception by 12%. He did not give a reason for the increase, just gave the results of that particular study..... Cyndi Flautt www.carettigsd.com =========================================================================== POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ÿÿ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================