[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: new conformation class
- From: "M Cheeks" <TRAFALGARgsds@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:57:28 -0400
I would like to see the Novice Class retained, but the criteria changed to
allow more participation. The lack of interest in the Novice class is more
likely due to the fact that once points(as few as 1 point) are earned, you
cannot enter the class. Today, it is not unusual to have dogs earning a
point/points from the puppy or 12-18 class.
I have major points on both of my boys(littermates) from the 12-18 class and
would have loved to split them at our US National between the Novice Class &
the American Bred classes....no can do...
I like the AKC's concept, but would prefer to see it applied to the Bred-By
Exhibitor class
Mike
TRAFALGAR German Shepherds
Michael & Susan Cheeks
TRAFALGARgsds@xxxxxxxxx
610-827-1833
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Msg: #3 in digest
From: Randheim@xxxxxxx
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:07:31 EDT
Subject: Re: new conformation class
Since I am a Specialty judge, I look at it this way:
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From: "Barbara Hahn" <bhahn0616@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <DOGSRLUV@xxxxxxx>
Cc: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <bonjenshepherds@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 2:12 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: new conformation class
I didn't see a whole lot of interest in Novice. It's a great place for a
young dog to get ring experience especially if their show career didn't
start in the puppy classes. It will be interesting to see how this plays
out.
Barb
Peggy <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Well, let your Delegates know...it
goes to the Delegates later in
the year.
The AKC wont care much about the handlers and they won't be breed
specific......let your Delegates know.
The AKC's been trying to get rid of the Novice class for
years..........many judges don't like it, either. It's easy to pick out
the people who never showed dogs, or at least those
who never showed their own............being against the Novice class is
one criteria, I think.
Peggy
DOGSRLUV@xxxxxxx wrote:
> In a message dated 8/20/2007 12:22:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>
> At the Board meeting last week, the AKC approved a new class for
> conformation shows...the Amateur class will replace the Novice class.
> You can read the details here:
>
> Wow, this is awful really for the clubs. It is almost like Bred by
> except for Non Pro's and we do not get many entries in bred by. I
> believe this is NOT a good thing to do at least for shepherds, I like
> the idea of the class but not eliminate the Novice class. I use that
> novice class for my young dogs when they get out of 12-18 but are not
> ready for Am Bred.
>
> Deb
>
>
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Msg: #5 in digest
From: "Kay Reamensnyder" <bedkar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: No mail ????Help Admin.
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:08:50 -0700
You do have a point there! LOL
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From: "Cudjoegsd" <cudjoegsd@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bedkar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] No mail ????Help Admin.
> REJOICE!!!!!!!D.D.
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> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 6:43 PM
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] No mail ????Help Admin.
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>
>>I have no mail coming in....what do I do?
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Msg: #6 in digest
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:12:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Cinosam GSD <cinosamgsd@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Van shopping - my experience
Last week I asked the question about the best dog show mini van to buy since
I'm retiring the school bus (express van) for something cheaper. Thanks to
all for the responses. This is what I found in my buying experience for
those of you that asked. I was looking for a 2006 or 2007.
Toyota Sienna and Honda Odyssey - sorry, I didn't look at either one of
them as they are out of my price range, however they are ranked by consumer
guides as the best vans (Honda taking #1). I did hear from someone that the
Honda has something sticking out in the back for the rear seat that prevents
two crates from being set side by side.
Nissan Quest - coolest van on the market and nicely rated if a little
expensive. The rear seat folds into the floor. However this would not make
a good dog show van as the second row seating folds down but not into the
floor...similar to sport utility vehicle and you can't take out the seats.
I ruled this van out before I even test drove it.
Kia Sodona (don't laugh) - this van is one of the higher consumer ranked
vans. It has a 10 year 100,000 mile warranty (best in the industry), has a
powerful engine and is one of the bigger vans in cubic feet. The only
reason I did not like this van aside from the fact that it wasn't attractive
is that the second row passenger seating does not fold into the floor. You
have to take it out and store it. I won't buy a van anymore that requires
me to store seats because of a bad experience with the 3 bench seats from my
Express van (involves cat pee).
Caravan (not grand) - forget it, small engine and too short.
Town & Country Van - average in ranking from the car experts. This van
has changed it's Trims a number of times over the years so makes it
difficult to shop for it as you never know what you are looking at and what
you are getting. Comes in a 3.3 & 3.8 liter engine. Comes in two lengths.
Is basically the same as the Grand Caravan.
Grand Caravan (my winner) - average in ranking from the car experts but
high consumer ratings. Comes in SE or SXT. I would not recommend the SE
which is hit and miss with the options has the smaller engine and comes in a
shorter wheel base. The SXT comes with 3.8 L engine and stow n go seating
standard. You get a lot for the price but it doesn't have the resale value
of the Honda or Toyota. The stow -n-go seating is slick...takes a few
seconds to flip the seats into the floor, and when they are not down you can
use the compartments that hold them for storage. Not the most powerful
engine, One concern - a few emailed me to say that the van would hold 500
(40X27X30?)crates side by side, but in the newer model (2005,2006,2007), no
way will this fit those size crates. The back of this van measures 49"
across. I had to measure every one of my 36X24X30 crates until I found two
that would fit and that was only because one of them was 23" wide. I fit
two more crates
with side doors behind the drive and passenger seats. It's tight but four
crates will fit. Rebates on this van are around $3,000 to $6,000 right now
so a good time to buy new. I bought a used 2007 with leather seats & more
options than I was looking for for $19000.
Hope that helps for all those looking.
Cindy
Cindy
www.cinosamgsd.com
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