personal references go a long way.. I ask for one from their vet - or someone who knows them well enough to be able to tell you how they would be with the dog.. I make sure they know up from what my expectations are if they no longer can keep the dog, and that this puppy is a lifetime commitment and giving it up means that a very good reason has come along..I rely on gut instincts and encourage a few visits before they take the puppy home.. most people who are looking for a possession that they won't put a great deal of value in will reveal themselves - yes, there are those that will squeak through, but if we are going to breed we will have to accept that we can not control ever situation - and these are the situations the AR people rely on for their propaganda to stop breeders.. Just as we don't want breed specific legislation but tougher penalties for "bad dogs" (and their owners) we need tougher laws for people who abuse or dump animals.. Sue Madlung - Shadowacre Reg'd German Shepherds http://www.shadowacre.com ** UPDATED MARCH 27/05*** ----- Original Message ----- From: "kate syssoloff" <rockannand@xxxxxxx> To: <pmick@xxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <gsdsforlife@xxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 3:07 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: new AR agenda??? > WHY ads for free dogs, or any critters for that matter is just simply wrong > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > It's not the free ads that are wrong.... it's the dumping of dogs that's > wrong.... charging a fee isn't going to stop anyone from disposing of their > animal.... On the other hand, it will probably cause them (the cold hearted > tight wad), to dump the dog off at the Pound, SPCA or Rescue. > > > > I still have my (gorgeous pick of the litter) *rescued 6 yr old male* that > the owners paid $1,000 for at 8 wks.... dumped him off at the SPCA.... If > it weren't for the SPCA calling me when they read my Sales Agreement, who > knows what would have happened to him? He spent 6 years of his life in a > garage on a huge estate because he could bark and protect expensive cars, > etc.. Money doesn't guarantee anything.... lots of cruel people with money > lie. > > > > I wish there was a way of preventing the wrong people from obtaining dogs or > dumping dogs. Human babies being abused are removed from the household. > Unfortunately, removing the dogs from an abusive household just doesn't have > the same *sting*.... it's probably what they want anyway. > > > > I've been thinking about this for quite sometime...... We have~~ > > dog licenses > > kennel licenses > > bylaws for breeders > > > > ... why not *owner* licenses.... You want a dog, you need to first get > licensed to own one before you can buy one. You pay the *dump fee* up front > It might make those impulse buyers do a U-turn... The number of puppies > looking for homes will slowly decline.... And, the *dumped dogs* will be > financed as the *dump fees* could be collected by the Rescue clubs. And, > these dogs would be free for the licensed owner. > > > > What do you think? > > Kate > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org > ============================================================================ > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================