Molly my love The point is, if people can't get themselves and their dogs to Nationals, or can't afford to get there, or if sites are not available or are too expensive to rent, there will be no Nationals, anywhere. Wayne PS What do other National clubs do? ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx> To: <shephaven@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 7:48 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: ] nationals In a message dated 2/12/2005 5:34:20 A.M. Central Standard Time, shephaven@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: Some prefer to fly to Toronto (45 min from show site) but we always drive and do it gladly, because that is where our National should be. It is best for our club, our breed and for ALL exhibitors from coast to coast. And yes, even for y'all. But you have to admit Wayne, Canada is definitely different than the US. The membership total is not even 1/4 of the PC in the US, probably 70% of the breeders and members live in Ontario, there are few in the east, a few more in the west but not enough to support the national. The country is larger than the US, and Kitchener facility maybe doesn't have a lot of extra amenities, but doesn't have the amount of people that attend a US national, the amount of performance events, or the entry. The two nationals of course are similar, they are dog shows, but the schematics are very different. The heaviest part of population, other than the Montreal and Vancouver area, all lie within 1 hour of Kitchener. Therein lies a good part of the problem. There are a large number of regional clubs and a considerable amount of workers spread all over the US. That does not exist in Canada, plus the facilities to host the Canadian national are more limited. There are few arenas after Sept 1 who will allow their hockey shut down for a week, and allow sod to be brought inside. So I guess what I am ultimately saying, it is very hard to compare the two. But regardless, you have made some good points....keep thinking on it my friend! Molly ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================