It is very difficult to get agility judges to commit to being willing to judge a national. First of all, many of the good ones are booked several years in advance, so they may not even be available. If they are willing to do a national and happen to be available the week of the national, they lose several days of work since the national is in the middle of the week. They have to design between 15 and 18 courses for a 2 day trial and they will most likely have under 200 runs. We give them barely enough money to break even, much less have it be profitable! Think about all that, now you are asking them not for a guaranteed "booking" to judge, but to commit to being available to judge ONLY if they're elected. So, they save the date (for a trial that's not exactly a "plum" assignment) and then they aren't chosen anyway but they may have already had to put in for the vacation time at work. When a lot of judges find out all this (and the GSDCA national judges contract isn't really inline with what agility judges get elsewhere), they just say "no" to even being on the ballot! When I was more involved with trying to find judges, we decided to find ONE judge, tell them the "facts", hope they'd agree to be on the ballot, and then pray that no one else nominated a judge to also be on the ballot :-) Some people are talking about the benefits of just hiring the agility judges several years in advance and not voting on them. I think that would be a fine idea as long as the committee (or person) in charge of that would take input from the active agility competitors. Julie Degen In a message dated 7/29/2010 10:47:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Msg: #4 in digest Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:12:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Cheryl May <cmdogsports@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Question about selecting agility judges for 2011 nationa The letter telling us about the candidates for office and the 2011 judges only lists one agility judge as a possibility. In past years, since the national wasn't being held in my area, I had no opinion on the matter. But in 2011 with the national coming to Kansas, I am sad that one of the great agility judges and the owner of the first MACH in Kansas, Joan Meyer, wasn't listed as a possible agility judge. Can anyone tell me why only one judge is selected for agility and we don't have a choice? I have nothing against the judge who is listed, am just wondering why we can't select from more than one name. - Cheryl May, Manhattan, KS ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================