[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: mycoplasma - long
- From: InquestGSD@xxxxxxx
- To: pbgs@xxxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 09:49:35 EDT
In a message dated 8/30/2009 9:25:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
pbgs@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
I know I have seen this on the lists before and would like some info
Questions....
For those who have delt with this in their dogs...
What were the symptoms?
What was the treatment?
What do you do for future prevention?
Rebecca Little
Peakes Brook German Shepherds
http://sites.centralpets.com/mammals/peakesbrookgsd/index.html
Hi Rebecca
There is a group who does online seminars with vets. Here is an excerpt of
a canine reproduction seminar with Dr Hutchinson (OH), this part is
regarding mycoplasma. I believe he will be doing a seminar at the National
this
year.
some thoughts from Dr. Robert Van Hutchison on Canine Reproduction
(re:mycoplasma)
Question: What about the dreaded mycoplasma?
DrHutch: Unfortunately, an article published in the early 90s blamed
mycoplasma for infertility in males, bitches aborting their puppies, husbands
fooling around with their secretaries.
We as dog people jumped on this like there was no tomorrow. Mycoplasma is a
normal organism at all body openings. A routine culture of a bitch's
vaginal tract will show strep, staph, e coli, pastuerella, and mycoplasma. The
vaginal tract is not sterile so routine culturing of a normal, healthy bitch
is totally unwarranted.
You need to appreciate the purpose of normal flora or normal bacteria: they
keep the BAD bugs out so a routine culture, that shows mycoplasma, e coli,
and strep, is not a cause for treatment but a cause for celebration
because the bitch is normal
Question: What about bitches who did not become pregnant before
antibiotics, but do afterward?
DrHutch: Putting on bitches on antibiotics pre-breeding actually makes
them more prone to infectious disease by killing normal organisms, especially
when we use the GOOD drugs like Baytril. Occasionally, we may see a bitch
with an infection... but there will be signs of that infection - redness,
abnormal discharge, smelling - just like if you have an infection in your ear,
you're not going to not know it. Bacteria does not equal infection.
When we see problems with mycoplasma, for example, it is not the mycoplasma
that caused the problem. Mycoplasma only took the opportunity of the
infection, just the same as the staph on the skin causes a hot spot because
the
dog has fleas, for example. Most of the individuals that see who do have
mycoplasma infection, would not have been prevented by a routine culture, as
the primary problem was stress, steroids, or other types of immune
deficiency. They are only secondary problems. Something like pyometritis is
not
caused by routine bacteria; the normal bacteria were allowed to flare up by
the inflammation of the uterine lining
Question: Isn't it true that an e coli infection can be passed to the
puppies in the birth canal, causing fading puppies and the loss of the whole
litter?
DrHutch: In normal healthy puppies, no. Think of puppies like the lions
surrounding the antelopes looking for the weak ones. If a puppy is stressed,
unhealthy, otherwise compromised, then the e coli can flare up but it's not
because we allowed the e coli to be there, it's because we allowed the
puppy to be unhealthy.
We cannot sterilize vaginal tracts no matter how many antibiotics we give
because air goes in, air goes out. Just because there is vaginal bacteria
does not mean there is intrauterine bacteria (bacteria in the uterus).
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