as far as my mole, he no longer lives here......thank you for the help as far as my one puppy litter, Mom and baby are doing fine...at 3 weeks, she weighed 6 and 1/4 pounds and at 5 weeks is a joy and like you all warned, spoiled rotten...her call name is "noodles" so when you see her at the shows, you all played an important part in helping to assure Mom and her daughter are doing fine as i have never had a one puppy litter before....mucho thanks to all that were so generous with your suggestions...natalie CLOVERLEIFE HILL KENNELS http://www.cloverleife.com/ CH Cloverleife's Dimples, CH Cloverleife's Cappuccino, CH Carmil's Amadeus v Windywood ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================