i picked up lilly yesterday. she's a really feminine black and reddish gold, beautiful head, eyes a little on the light side, plush coat, iron back, nice tight feet, great shoulder layback, moderately angulated, great croup and i could go on and on about how nice she is! i don't know who her breeder is. i don't know who her owner is. i picked her up from animal control where she's been sitting for a month. she's terrified of me, of my dogs, cats, squirrels, weird air currents - ANYTHING that moves. i pushed her hard to see if she would snap at me - never did. took her to the vet - she's full of whip and hook but, thank heavens, HW negative. lilly was picked up as a stray, wearing an old leather collar with a piece of frayed rope attached. she's about 3-4 years old. to be blunt, it makes me sick. this is a decently bred bitch who has been so terribly beaten into submission i don't know if she can be brought back to a happy and secure enough dog to be adoptable. i'll give 6 months to lilly and pray for the best. right now, she is miserable - life is something to be feared. if you see a stray gsd, PLEASE try to help. if you can get one out of a shelter and into a good home, please do. if you can't do it yourself, please help support those who do. lilly is NOT unique nor is she the first i've had with these problems. i decided to call this bitch lilly - she didn't even have a name. diane - mississippi valley gsd rescue Diane Strasser Silstra German Shepherds "Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole." - Roger Caras ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================