I knew Ted Mark Stover. Us around here at that time called him Mark. He bought a puppy from me years ago and sold it to some people in Alaska who had a boy who was mentally handicapped and would wonder off into the woods. Mark trained the dog to keep the boy on the property. Good job for a Shepherd. From what I have been told his ex-wife's family is the owners of St.Michelle winery here in Washington. They own a small island here in the Puget Sound and that is where he did his dog training business. The ex-wife's boy friend, who was convicted, was her bodyguard. They found blood in Mark's house and his personal protection dog was shot but survived. Interesting story. You can Google it. Brenda Piele it pretty clear that Stover's ex wife and her father paid Oakes to do it...mostly I was reading, and just half-listening. Stover was "trainer to the stars" because he trained a couple of dogs for some celebrities...but neither Stover nor Oakes would be well known to dog show folks, it turns out. Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: <Scharo777@xxxxxxx> >A mystery is always interesting. Keep us posted, Peg. > > Carol Moore ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================