I was very fortunate to have had a number of old timers as mentors. It seems like just yesterday that i was trying to gleen gems of information from Mary Kirtland of Scotmar Shepherds,Barb Williams of Santana Shepherds,Phil and Bertie Friedberg,Philberlyn Shepherds,Ray and Adele Johnson,Del Rey Shepherds,Ruth Schreifer and a few others. They were all very willing to freely share their experience and knowledge. I try to be as helpfull to the new people of today as my mentors were with me . Unfortunately some of the new people seem to think they know everything there is to know about our breed in just a very few years. Maybe i'm just a slow learner, but i consider it a wasted day if i don't learn something new every day and on some days i even learn something from a newbie. Bud ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================