That first line should read: It is a VERY good post. (the computer seems to be possessed.) Ruth ________________________________ From: Ruth Scheubler <rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx> To: DaList <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 7:48 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: membership/breeders of white dogs BEWARE! it is a VERY gooo just breed to thd post. Those who just breed to the standard do not have to worry about fads or sudden "insights" promoted by someone or small group because it suits them. Ruth ________________________________ From: "Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx" <Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx> To: hickoryhillgsd1@xxxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 7:38 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: membership/breeders of white dogs BEWARE! This message should be read over at least 5 times if you don't understand it the first reading. Good post Christine. Honest and on the money Molly In a message dated 8/11/2013 5:42:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time, hickoryhillgsd1@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes: There is a saying that "perception is everything."I think the problem is not with the reduced membership fee per se as stated that was established before, but it is with the PERCEPTION that folks with the "color that shall not be mentioned" are trying to manipulate the vote for their own gain. I think if the "other color" was encouraging their members to join the GSDCA and there was not an upcoming vote, it would be a completely different perception. There is in my opinion no nastiness for questioning their motives, you would have to be completely stupid not to see that they are tying to create a block of votes. Now, here is something else to consider; the timing of the Review article. The article was written by a judge who happens to be judging the Canadian national within a month or so. Sly man. He knows that there will be fewer rebuttals because exhibitors and handlers do not want to jeopardize a potential win. The re-introduction of the "white" dog is at least the 3rd time in the past 35-40 years where one person has tried to dictate to the fancy how they should be breeding. Each time this has happened the breed has suffered. In the early 70's it was decided that the over-angulated dog was what the breed needed, like lemmings the fancy followed. This clearly hurt the breeds reputation as the breed went from looking like a strong sturdy working dog to a style of dog that looked like a ridiculous jack rabbit. Then around 2002-2008 it was decided that "less angles are better, all dogs should be black and red, and temperament doesn't seem to matter much", so yet another "new style" o f dog was thrust upon the GSD fancy, again like lemmings, many(or most) of the fancy followed, I believe because their desire to win was greater than their desire to protect the breed. Many stud dogs that should have been being used by breeders sat idle with very few if any breedings and good bloodlines were lost forever. In fact So many followed that today it has become increasingly difficult to find a dog to breed to that does not share the same bloodline. So here it is in 2013 and now the very same person who decided that we needed over angulation in the 70's, then in the early to mid 2000's decided for us that less angles, less sidegait was desirable, that questionable temperament was ok, that all dogs had to be black and red( isn't that ironic..all these years of orange red dogs and now we need whites! LOL!) as well as being instrumental in turning the GSD gene pool into a kiddie pool is now offering up to the fancy yet another direction that the breed needs to take; to incorporate the white dog, to fix the damage that was done. In closing, my advise to white GSD breeders is RUN, away from this..do not vote to have you dogs part of this. You will ultimately become what the GSD has become. The GSd has been bastardized and manipulated for profit for 40 years and I blame the fancy for letting it happen! You don't have this type of manipulation within your color of the GSD. You as breeders should protect your breed and the integrity of you sport. Don't let yourselves be sucked into bailing the GSDCA out with a Pollyanna notion of "belonging" embrace your independence and be proud of it!!!! Christine Grainger ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. 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