It's like I said the suggested dates for the National are in th p&p behind the wall. I was told a certain person had friends in higher places. What is said on the lists stays on the lists YEA RIGHT Bob Neiman / Walled Lake, Mich. Owner Barkalot's Felonious Assault AKA Brat and the other half of B'N'B Breeder/owner of UKC GR Ch.B'N'B-Barkalot's Cherish RN Co-owner of UKC ChSandyCreek-B'N'B-WC's Christmas Star AKA Echo Co-owner of Ketlyn's Black Widow Proud member of the GSDC of Am. since 1996 Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone. --- On Wed, 2/2/11, Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx <Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx> wrote: From: Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx <Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: members only and gag orders To: sallyhayden5@xxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 12:28 PM Everyone's opinion is important...I don't block anyone even those I prefer not to hear from. They might just come up with something I agree with. Sally is surely what you see is what you get along with many others in this totally crazy dog world. But mentioning the gag order has brought something interesting up. Apparently at our last board meeting a motion was put on the floor to basically put a gag order on members of our board. The very sad state.....it was supported and passed. Our board members are NOT to answer on any list any questions about the club or board in any official capacity. The only communication is to be on Constant Contact with approval of the president AND the exec committee. Let this sink in a little folks, and also, think what the purpose of the exec committee is. It is in place to handle the emergent dealings of the club when it is not feasible for the whole board to get together, and their actions are to be approved at the next board meeting by the whole board. NOT to filter information to the members of the club, or non members for that matter. Our president now can not in any official capacity answer your questions on this list IF she abides but this ridiculous, and I would come close to saying, unlawful motion. This is removing freedom of speech as all of you know when Tish or any president answers something on the list it is not Joe who....when elected as president or a board member, we view their responses in regards to the position they hold. Situations like this need an outcry from everyone as to what on God's green earth is going on here! Call a board member and confirm this. There are some no longer on this list particularly who want to ensure they know outflow of any kind.....so have attempted to guarantee that they have dealt with this. My next question for those board members that passed this and I dare you to answer.....what are you going to do when a board member breaches this, because remember, you cannot through them out....only the membership can. Molly Trillia German Shepherds since 1972 409-287-3940 Member GSDCA, GSDCC, GSDC of Beaumont, lifetime member CKC In a message dated 2/2/2011 10:28:37 A.M. Central Standard Time, sallyhayden5@xxxxxxxxx writes: Bob if you think there should be a members only list then set one up - have the PC set one up but it will not stop non members from talking about what is going on nor will it stop others from finding out what is happening. You simply can not put a gag order on whole club. If all members ' do not like what is being said all they have to do is delete do not read or listen to what non members have to say. I have never pulled any punches- I dropped out of the PC 2 yrs ago not on a whim but after many years of frustrations. After reading the posts lately I see nothing has changed.The things that happened to me are happening to others today. 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