Great attitude there, Iza, and I agree with you.........I think the problem these days, or maybe it always has been, that not all people take their puppies out to show for fun..or even for experience--they want to win! You know as well as any of us that most puppies aren't ready to win over competitive adults, but people get discouraged when their babies don't win...and they don't understand why they haven't, or what "not ready" means. Sometimes, but not often, a puppy is full of attitude, at full "bloom" for the day, and the older dogs are not in condition, or bored, or just not good ones, or even just having a bad day...so a puppy wins........but there are fewer and fewer people who are happy with just a "Best Puppy" or a compliment from a judge....they want to win. Also there are those who can't afford to keep entering puppies over and over again, when the competition is usually more "ready" to win.... the "fun" aspect disappears quickly sometimes. I used to enjoy taking a puppy out a few times, and then leaving it home until it was really competitive...but I've always been one who believes it isn't right to campaign a puppy. Not for me, anyway. Nationals are a whole different thing...of course you should want to show off your breeding, no matter the class! Bully for you to take those three girls...I know you will enjoy seeing them in the ring, trained or not...and you WILL have fun! Peggy Iza Kabuska wrote: >I agree with all three ladies that just posted on this subject - Kathy, Kathy >H. & Sheila - even though their opinions vary, I certainly see their point. >Having been in the breed for many years, with many CH's & ROM bitches to my >credit, I STILL like to take puppies out , whether they are match shows or >point shows. Heck, I have THREE bitches entered in the National - a 6-9 >puppy, a 9-12 puppy, and a Novice bitch. Now, how crazy is that ???? They >have had no ring training to speak of, but so what ?? My handler will >hopefully work them a little bit before the class - and yes, Kathy H. this is >supposed to be fun !!! > > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================